intense_tracer

The payments come out pretty close to each other. In this case, would it be worth it to take the one with the higher residual/higher MF or lower residual/lower MF? If I have no intentions of buying the car at the end, it shouldn't make a difference right? Also, does the dealer stand to make more from the one with the higher MF?

bora

I find the stock suspension a bit soft based on my drives with this car.

But then, seeing Mooty's cayman s pictures, it looks like cayman s non-PASM suspensions allows a lot of roll too. And what's up with that ride height

mooty

yes, stock cayman non pasm has lots of lean on track. but it's actually very nice on street.
the track cayman now has motons and is sitting very very low.

RoninM5

It would be steep for a Cayenne.

But for a Cayenne S. people in California have gotten quotes approaching $1200 for a Cayenne S, so I think it's not bad for a $67,800 MSRP vehicle.

joey c

not to start trouble,but the cayman s is just not worth it..5-7k out of pocket..and 800+ a month,for a boxster coupe..35k spent over the lease term and then give it back..i used to do this all the time..it made me sick when i spent 36k over 48months on a 2000 boxster s,and gave it back with 33k miles.i wasnt home enough to drive it..but that lease was zero out of pocket..to put 7k out of pocket,,,thats gone.good bye..take 10k out of pocket,finance 40k over 60 months and own a 993 c2s....much cooler than a box coupe imo...you can keep it..

rooster20

Amen

fast1

finance 40k over 60 months and own a 993 c2s....much cooler than a box coupe imo...you can keep it..

And how much will it cost to maintain that 993 C2S? I have two friends who bought used 993s and they love their cars, but they perform virtually all of their own maintenance and get Porsche parts at near wholesale prices. For those who don't have the talent and /or time to maintain their cars, a 10 + year old Porsche can really put a hurten on your wallet.

arenared

I'm going to side with mooty here. I am addicted to the mid-engine layout and it would take a pretty impressive 911 (i.e. GT3) to get me out of my (modified) 986S.

Coming from an S2000, you will retain the mid-engine, and the Cayman is WAY fun. Depending on how hard core you are/how much you track the car, you may also consider a Boxster S if you're currently enjoying the top-down on your S2000. It's significantly cheaper, and the 2007 Boxsters will have the same powertrains as the Cayman if you are OK with the convertible (some folks aren't). I don't think the Porsche shifter/tranny can compare with your S2000, but they have more bottom end which make them feel more powerful than the numbers would suggest.

Marv

That is the question. Me, I have been fortunate. 5 years of 993 ownership and 33K miles cost me about $1500 total. That includes oil, filters, and tires.

However, I now have 46K miles on the clock and will be putting new pads and rotors on it and some other trivial odds and ends that will add about $1000 to the $1500 I have spent to date. Still, not a bad deal by any stretch of the imagination.

I think that is pretty cheap, but not every owner gets by that well. Also, my car is essentially paid for, so any cost I have now is simply gas, oil, and maintenance, which should be a whole lot less than a new Cayman S.

Another way to look at it is you can buy a 993 for about half of the price of the Cayman S, which gives you a lot of cash left over for repairs.

Still, I would not mind having a Cayman S next to it (the 993) in the garage.

joey c

if you find the RIGHT 993..have a ppi..you should be ok..i have a 87 911..and needed brakes and a service.blah blah...at the end of the year its a lot cheaper..the 993 will cost A LOT less than a cayman s..so you would have the money to put towards repairs...my 3.2 has been bulletproof and i feel lucky..but when i am hit with 500 bucks,its just part of the reality of having a 20 year old car..WHY would you lease a cayman s instead of buying it....if its because you cant afford to buy it,maybe you should buy a car you can afford.

fast1

That is the question. Me, I have been fortunate. 5 years of 993 ownership and 33K miles cost me about $1500 total. That includes oil, filters, and tires.

Marv: Your $300 a year average maintenance puts you near the maintenance average for a Toyota. Congratulations, you have a great car in more ways than one.

cosmos

People are insane to lease anything over 24 months. You should Financei it. I am not trying to be the bad guy here, but if you are extending your lease past 36 months inorder to lower your payments to afford the car, then the truth is you can't really afford the car in the first place.

fast1

Cos - Cash purchase vs Leasing vs Financing has been discussed many times on this forum. From a personal perspective, I refrain from financing depreciating assets.

cosmos

Even if we discuss the cash v leasing argument (which could be run in circles) I do want to say that I think spreading out a lease 42 months inorder to afford a lease is asking for trouble. Its just a long time to lease a car.

alcantara

Well the reason why I'm looking to lease the vehicle is because my tax preparer has advised me that it would be best to lease it in order to get some deductions. The only thing is I haven't told her what type of vehicle I'm looking at, and the fact that the cayman is a sports car may not be justifiable tax-wise.

Secondly, I'm with fast1. I work in investments and finance, and as a general rule, you should always finance appreciating assets, and lease depreciating assets. Although I did finance my Cayenne S only because the lease programs available for it were negligeable difference.

That's all besides the point. I have an appointment with my accountant this week, and will make the decision soon after. Thanks for the input.