405HP Cayman GTR
02-22-2006 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pstoppani
X-51 options is $16,900. Then you'd have to pay to install it which is non-trivial.
I'm asking only for our imaginary comparison above. To get a true cost to cost comparison, the 997S would have to have an x51 motor as well. So I was wondering how much that costs "from the factory"...
02-23-2006 | 12:21 AM
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I used the Car Configurator to build a Carrera S which is closely configured to my Cayman S, plus the X-51 performance package and it came out to $102K! So, that's a 911 with 90+HP for a difference of $32K. Hmmm... there is a good chance you could get an X51 motor installed for that amount 
Last time I looked, it cost about $20K to install a 3.6L motor in a Boxster so if you could get an X-51 motor, it seems possible to do it for $32K. At that price, it would be a reasonable mod.
I hope someone does it and compares it to a Carrera S X-51... which magazine should we get to do it?!!
Last time I looked, it cost about $20K to install a 3.6L motor in a Boxster so if you could get an X-51 motor, it seems possible to do it for $32K. At that price, it would be a reasonable mod.I hope someone does it and compares it to a Carrera S X-51... which magazine should we get to do it?!!
02-23-2006 | 01:12 AM
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I don't think the X51 package is a fair/economical one because it includes upgrades such as airbox, headers, and exhaust upgrades which would be worthless on a transplant. Also, it is questionable whether or not the revised intake manifolds and ECU programming could be used. I think about all that you could use for sure would be the heads with revised cams. The ECU and Varioram intake manifolds would be a maybe. I think aftermarket cams/ECU/intake plumbing/exhaust would be better since most of the latter would be needed anyway. The 9ff stuff (different post) looks interesting if it's real. Instead of an X51, they offer a 4.0L. http://shop.eurocarboutique.com/Engine_C189.cfm
That Porsche charges $17K for these "upgrades" is absurd since I doubt the difference in cost if the upgrades were in the 3.8L to begin with would probably only be $1K or $2K, if that. The GT3 motor is more like a $17K upgrade. As others feel, the base should have been the non-X51 3.8L. Then, the Cayman S could have gotten the 3.6L while the base Cayman got the 3.4L. That would be more consistent with their pricing structure.
That Porsche charges $17K for these "upgrades" is absurd since I doubt the difference in cost if the upgrades were in the 3.8L to begin with would probably only be $1K or $2K, if that. The GT3 motor is more like a $17K upgrade. As others feel, the base should have been the non-X51 3.8L. Then, the Cayman S could have gotten the 3.6L while the base Cayman got the 3.4L. That would be more consistent with their pricing structure.
03-16-2006 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pstoppani
I would definitely ditch the Cayman S and keep the Elise.
Nice Elise...I'm waiting for mine to come in mid April...Still thinking of trading my '03 M3 in for a Cayman S...need a winter car.
03-17-2006 | 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by rushSC
A Cayman Turbo? that's sounds even more insane than the GTR we've been talking about!!! I can't wait to here how these monsters drive!
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