Did Porsche deliberately hold the Cayman back?
#16
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Originally Posted by R4][N_M4l{3R
I'd like to see a track test though, i think the Cayman could outnimble a V8 M3.
#18
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Originally Posted by Jim Michaels
Was there a boxing match or what?
The comparision between the cars was over a number of topics, ranging from biuld quality, technical bits, comfort, handling, performance,practicality (?), costs, etc., with points for everything.
In the end the boxster coupe came out with a higher score..for what it is worth.
In the end people will buy the car they prefer but the magazine says Porsche are blind if they believe that no 911 sales will be lost to the Crocodile.
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Irish: Thanks for clarifying. I guess Porsche feels that it's much better that they lose some 911 sales to the Cayman than to some other marque. Thus, expansion of the line should increase overall sales.
#20
Originally Posted by Irishdriver
Spelling was never my strong point...
Last edited by BiggerTwin; 12-05-2005 at 05:13 PM.
#22
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Originally Posted by GrantG
Absolutely, but for the price it should out-accelerate and out-nimble at least the current E46 M3 which costs about $15k-$20k less. If the new V8 M3 doesn't become much more expensive than the current car (~$50k), then I think the Cayman will lose some sales...
#24
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That was only 'cos his producer bought one to sell on for a profit in a short time.
Actually
Boxer motor + roadster body = Boxster
so
Boxer Motor + coupe = Boxpe or Boxupe
now what would Clarkson make of a "box-upe" ???? ...****-up
Actually
Boxer motor + roadster body = Boxster
so
Boxer Motor + coupe = Boxpe or Boxupe
now what would Clarkson make of a "box-upe" ???? ...****-up
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are there two camps of sports car enthusiasts - those who adhere to a linear releationship between quantifiable perf specs vs price, and those who feel a non-linear or non-quantifiable price vs performance-as-experience relationship is paramount?
that is, those who care about 1/10s of acceleration differential per $, & those who don't? for one, I don't think buyers of new $60K+ perf street cars are "value engineers" (but I've been wrong before...).
that is, those who care about 1/10s of acceleration differential per $, & those who don't? for one, I don't think buyers of new $60K+ perf street cars are "value engineers" (but I've been wrong before...).
#27
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Hell yah of coarse they held it back, they could easily share the same 3.8 l engine for the boxster and cayman but they don't because they would then have to raise the msrp to that of a 911. So yah they put in a smaller engine and drop the price.
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Also I might add that I recently read that the Cayman S was deliberately set 1 hp less than the retired 996 model so as to not upset anyone. Looking for magazine article tomorrow if anyone really wants the quote.
#29
Porsche has been protecting its rear engine backside for a very very long time now. But I think people who complain about a 3.4 not being enough are either very very talented drivers or are getting caught in the power game. Its never enough in a straight line.
but seriously how many P-cars have had that kind of displacement when you consider the total number of Porsches that been built over the years. I use to drive a 1.8 Miata with adjustable shocks and Falken Azenis. I'm more interested in handling than shaving 1 second(a blink) on the drag strip.
p.s.
can I get a CaymanS with a 996/986 interior?
but seriously how many P-cars have had that kind of displacement when you consider the total number of Porsches that been built over the years. I use to drive a 1.8 Miata with adjustable shocks and Falken Azenis. I'm more interested in handling than shaving 1 second(a blink) on the drag strip.
p.s.
can I get a CaymanS with a 996/986 interior?
#30
Methinks the 911 folks are exhibiting distinct indications of Caymaphobia. There is room for all in the Porsche tent.