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Old May 30, 2019 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim7139
Personally I’d walk, too many cars out there without track time. Did he do enough track time to set the stage for the noted 3rd gear failure ?
did he hit a larger berm, hole, etc. leading to an inevitable strut tower failure ? ( that sounds like fun).
i will never assume a prior owner cared for something the way I’d like to believe I would .
Originally Posted by danschy
Fully agree. I know tracking the car can be lots of fun, I just don't want to buy that car. Of course you won't know for sure what the history was, but for me, how much the car was tracked is THE most important question for the all the reasons quoted above.
Nothing wrong with a Porsche that has been taken to the track. Many of them have been maintained much better than those that haven't been tracked. Plus, a car could be abused on the street too. I would just prefer to see a tracked car with my own eyes before I bought it to confirm its cosmetic condition. A good shop should be able to tell the level and extent of track usage by looking at various places underneath.
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Old May 30, 2019 | 10:41 PM
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I'd rather have a well maintained car that's been tracked than a car serviced minimally by a careless non-enthusiast owner. Anyone who is going to track the car regularly should be on top of maintenance, fluid changes, replacing wear items preventatively, etc. It's the cars I track that I have been most fanatical about maintaining because even little things you might put off on a street car could become safety issues on the track.
As far as I can tell, there are no issues with these cars that arise from track use other than increased wear on consumables (bushings, bearings, shocks, brakes, etc). I would take any ppi details around wear on consumables into account for pricing but track use in itself wouldn't bother me. The dme report wouldn't bother me either but I would want a leak down/compression test with level 5/6 overrevs to validate there was no engine damage.
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Old May 31, 2019 | 12:40 PM
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I don't disagree that a well-maintained tracked car can be a good deal if the price is right and you take into account the issues listed above by several contributors. And of course a poorly maintained car, tracked or not, would not be a good choice. However, having read countless threads on issues that arise on the track, or things to do to get your car ready for the track, I (personally) will continue to shy away from any car that has had extensive track time due to the increased risk of having issues. I spent over 40 years in product development, much of it in reliability engineering, and nothing in that experience taught me that increased stress reduces failure rate.

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Old May 31, 2019 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim7139
Personally I’d walk, too many cars out there without track time. Did he do enough track time to set the stage for the noted 3rd gear failure ?
did he hit a larger berm, hole, etc. leading to an inevitable strut tower failure ? ( that sounds like fun).
i will never assume a prior owner cared for something the way I’d like to believe I would .
Well, if you read the post, it's a 987 Spyder. The issues you mention occur with the 'upgraded' 981 Spyder. Sometimes newer is not always better. . .
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Old May 31, 2019 | 04:20 PM
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What did the rest of the PPI look like? Any indication of abuse/premature wear? I'd probably take that into account along with the DME since it's not so cut and dry.
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Old May 31, 2019 | 04:51 PM
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Thanks for all the replies. Very helpful.

Ultimately I’ve decided to walk away from the vehicle since I couldn’t get a clear picture on the extent of its track usage.

Thanks again!
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