What expensive failures can occur with Cayman S 987 mk1?
07-19-2018, 07:32 AM
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What expensive failures can occur with Cayman S 987 mk1?
Hi guys.
Last year I planned to buy cayman, but financial difficulties made me buy FRS. Next year I will definetely do it.
I want to know, how much money I have to keep in cache to keep Cayman S running. I know about bore scoring issues, I will save about 6grand if such thing occurs - to install cylinder sleeves.
What other expensive failures can happen with 987.1 A/T? (we almost got no second hand MT versions in Russia)
Some electronic blocks maybe? Tranny? I know about oil separator problem, so I won't use grippy tires on track.
Heard about IMS too, will change it as soon as I buy the car.
What expensive failures can occur, how much will be repair costs and what is the probability?
Last year I planned to buy cayman, but financial difficulties made me buy FRS. Next year I will definetely do it.
I want to know, how much money I have to keep in cache to keep Cayman S running. I know about bore scoring issues, I will save about 6grand if such thing occurs - to install cylinder sleeves.
What other expensive failures can happen with 987.1 A/T? (we almost got no second hand MT versions in Russia)
Some electronic blocks maybe? Tranny? I know about oil separator problem, so I won't use grippy tires on track.
Heard about IMS too, will change it as soon as I buy the car.
What expensive failures can occur, how much will be repair costs and what is the probability?
07-19-2018, 08:07 AM
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IMS is not so easy to change out on the Caymans. It’s not like the early 996 and Boxsters.
Honestly take the 6k and whatever you planned to pay for the IMS and just buy a 987.2
And if you can only get an auto the 987.2 comes with the vastly superior dual clutch PDK transmission whereas the 987.1 has a tiptronic auto.
Honestly take the 6k and whatever you planned to pay for the IMS and just buy a 987.2
And if you can only get an auto the 987.2 comes with the vastly superior dual clutch PDK transmission whereas the 987.1 has a tiptronic auto.
07-19-2018, 09:58 AM
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^Agree.
07-19-2018, 11:47 AM
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IMS is not so easy to change out on the Caymans. It’s not like the early 996 and Boxsters.
Honestly take the 6k and whatever you planned to pay for the IMS and just buy a 987.2
And if you can only get an auto the 987.2 comes with the vastly superior dual clutch PDK transmission whereas the 987.1 has a tiptronic auto.
Honestly take the 6k and whatever you planned to pay for the IMS and just buy a 987.2
And if you can only get an auto the 987.2 comes with the vastly superior dual clutch PDK transmission whereas the 987.1 has a tiptronic auto.
07-19-2018, 12:19 PM
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'99-'05 996 & Boxsters have an IMS that can be replaced without dissembling the engine. '06-'08's 997s/Boxsters/Caymans have a larger, redesigned IMS bearing which requires engine disassembly to replace.
07-19-2018, 12:28 PM
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Failure rates on the 06-08 Cayman IMS bearings are very low as I understand it. It is sometimes suggested an oil analysis for metal fragments be done which may shed light on whether bearing failure may likely occur.
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07-20-2018, 05:43 AM
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07-20-2018, 05:45 AM
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IMS is not so easy to change out on the Caymans. It’s not like the early 996 and Boxsters.
Honestly take the 6k and whatever you planned to pay for the IMS and just buy a 987.2
And if you can only get an auto the 987.2 comes with the vastly superior dual clutch PDK transmission whereas the 987.1 has a tiptronic auto.
Honestly take the 6k and whatever you planned to pay for the IMS and just buy a 987.2
And if you can only get an auto the 987.2 comes with the vastly superior dual clutch PDK transmission whereas the 987.1 has a tiptronic auto.
07-20-2018, 07:51 AM
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They are twice as much for a reason. The market knows something you don’t.
Are parts also cheap? Bore scoring is another issue as is the lack of even a dual clutch in the 987.1.
I honestly wouldn’t want a cayman with a slush box automatic. I think it would ruin the entire experience. Are 996 911s more readily available? I would opt for one of those with a stick over a slushbox 987.1. They have IMS issueas as well but with the easier fix. Here in the states a 996 isn’t much more (sometimes less) than a 987.1.
Just my 2 cents.
Are parts also cheap? Bore scoring is another issue as is the lack of even a dual clutch in the 987.1.
I honestly wouldn’t want a cayman with a slush box automatic. I think it would ruin the entire experience. Are 996 911s more readily available? I would opt for one of those with a stick over a slushbox 987.1. They have IMS issueas as well but with the easier fix. Here in the states a 996 isn’t much more (sometimes less) than a 987.1.
Just my 2 cents.
07-20-2018, 07:54 AM
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They are twice as much for a reason. The market knows something you don’t.
Are parts also cheap? Bore scoring is another issue as is the lack of even a dual clutch in the 987.1.
I honestly wouldn’t want a cayman with a slush box automatic. I think it would ruin the entire experience. Are 996 911s more readily available? I would opt for one of those with a stick over a slushbox 987.1. They have IMS issueas as well but with the easier fix. Here in the states a 996 isn’t much more (sometimes less) than a 987.1.
Just my 2 cents.
Are parts also cheap? Bore scoring is another issue as is the lack of even a dual clutch in the 987.1.
I honestly wouldn’t want a cayman with a slush box automatic. I think it would ruin the entire experience. Are 996 911s more readily available? I would opt for one of those with a stick over a slushbox 987.1. They have IMS issueas as well but with the easier fix. Here in the states a 996 isn’t much more (sometimes less) than a 987.1.
Just my 2 cents.
07-20-2018, 07:59 AM
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On paper there is a 30 hp difference between a 987.1 S and a 987.2 base but my 987.2 base feels pretty strong I have to say. Stronger than my 981 base which apparently had 10 more hp.
07-20-2018, 08:25 AM
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I don't need straight line power - right now I drive BRZ and it's enough for me. I prefer track driving to street racing.
07-20-2018, 09:23 AM
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Having driven both quite a bit, 987.2 base feels pretty close to 987.1S in the real world, especially with the PDK helping out.