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Old 07-11-2018, 12:22 AM
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I'm looking at this 981 cayman base model... (LINK https://www.autosofdallas.com/vehicl...tx-id-21692019 )

Photos show it has a s-like dual tip exhaust, and 19" wheels... then the carfax shows in 2016 it was recorded at 75k on the odometer, and in 2017 recorded at 41k on the odometer. 1 previous lease owner for 3 years.

Called up the place it was punched in at and they said it was probably a fat finger but they'll look into it and call back tomorrow morning.

Should I take this to Porsche and ask for them to do a diagnostic on it and see whats up with it? I'm surprised that its priced at what it is.

Any insight? it's been up for over 215 days on CarGurus ( LINK https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invent...ting=193380924 )

It's marked as a 'Fleet' car.


I drove it today and because I come from a little miata, it felt synthetic and slow to me and I was a bit uncomfortable, but it was my first time driving a cayman. Is this how new cars are supposed to feel? I didn't get a chance to really /DRIVE/ it, so I don't know if there can be some more driving problems... but from the initial drive and my lack of relevant driving experience, I conclude that its good, but I'm just a noob.


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Old 07-11-2018, 12:23 AM
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Anyone wanna take me for a ride in their cayman in Dallas?
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Old 07-11-2018, 12:53 AM
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Looks like it had the sport tail pipes option (XLS) to answer that part. As far as price, yes seems low, but these hold their value depending on options. This car has an MSRP of $60.7k, and is now almost 4 years old (09/2014 build), essentially equating to ~60% of Msrp.

The porsche dealer who entered the mileage record should be able to clarify the discrepancy.
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Old 07-11-2018, 12:55 AM
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I thank you for the info about how to lookup the packages ordered. databatrix seems like a nice site.
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Old 07-11-2018, 05:19 AM
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Been a long while since I drove a Miata...I had two back in the 90's...but this Cayman appears to have regular vanilla suspension...which I'm not a fan of. I can see jumping from the Mazda to a standard Cayman might feel weird. X73 for me is the way to go. I swapped my 981 standard suspension out for X73 and it was unreal in the difference. So I'm used to 20" wheels + x73...so a heck of a firm ride. Not far away from my current GT4. My 2cents. Hope you can get this car sorted out if you like it. Good luck.
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:36 AM
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Thank you John. Sport suspension by itself sounds rough let alone riding w/ 20's on low profile wheels.

I just hope to compare the current ride w/ another 981 to have another reference point.
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:39 AM
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First, +1 on the X73 retrofit, although I used the base suspension for two years on track and it’s not terrible. Avoid 20”wheels to minimize unstrung weight.

My base 6mt Cayman with X73 and a non-valved FVD Brombacher “sound” exhaust, does not feel synthetic. I’m missing quite a bit of sound insulation too However, I’d agree that many new Porsches suffer from too much electronic gimmickry, especially PASM, PSE, sport Chrono, 18 way memory seats, “voice control” (ha!), Apple Car Play (give me a break).
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:23 AM
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Wish you had posted this a few days ago. I was in Dallas and would have been happy to take you for a ride and let you drive my Boxster GTS. I also have a Miata (NB2), so I can speak to both.

I've been thinking about replacing the Miata with a base Cayman. Do me a favor and buy this Cayman before I do.
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Old 07-11-2018, 12:31 PM
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NB2 Miata as well, I've had it for 8 or 9 years now. I'm getting old and wanting something thats not as rough, but here I am worrying about the smoothness of the ride of a cayman. >_<
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by O_O View Post
NB2 Miata as well, I've had it for 8 or 9 years now. I'm getting old and wanting something thats not as rough, but here I am worrying about the smoothness of the ride of a cayman. >_<
Ready to be out of a convertible as well? Just curious since you are switching from the Miata to a Cayman rather than a Boxster.

I'll say this: Ventilated seats in a Boxster changes EVERYTHING.

If you are getting away from a convertible because of the heat, just get ventilated seats. It can be 100 degrees (real temp, not index) and we are perfectly comfortable with the top down. July 4th it was 97 degrees and we went for a four hour drive with the top down. Got home and didn't have a drop of sweat on either of us. Spent five minutes outside talking to a guy working on our house and was so gross I had to change my clothes. The ventilated seats in combination with the air conditioning are that good.
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:13 PM
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Vented seats are voodoo magic. At first I thought it was a gimmick but it really does make a difference.
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:37 PM
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@CaymanSinAR - I wrote this long reponse and then accidentally closed the tab. But in summary. I like the Cayman appearance more than the Boxster and I also worked on my Miata's soft top, replacing the canvas and I do not want to deal with that ever again. Noise insulation++
Thanks for linking that Cayman, it's nice. Looking at these

http://porsche.databatrix.com/WP0AA2A84EK171086 (addtnl info: 27k odo miles, ...)
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http://porsche.databatrix.com/WP0AA2A84FK161577 (addtnl info: 41k odo miles, 2015 model, last maintenance was 2016, weird odometer readings on carfax, 1 owner, lease, fleet car)


basically: Prod Month: 04/2013
VIN: WP0AA2A84EK171086
Price: $64,950.00
Exterior: Black
Interior: Standard Interior in Black
Warranty Start: July 01, 2013
Warranty End: July 01, 2018
406 19" Cayman S Wheels
480 Manual transmission
541 Seat ventilation
603 Bi-Xenon ™ headlights incl. Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS)
748 Power folding side mirrors
A1 Black

and

Prod Month: 09/2014
VIN: WP0AA2A84FK161577
Price: $60,745.00
Exterior: Black
Interior: Standard Interior in Luxor Beige
406 19" Cayman S Wheels
498 Deletion of Model Designation
840 SportDesign steering wheel
A1 Black
P9G Infotainment Package with BOSE ® Surround Sound System
UG Standard Interior in Luxor Beige
XLS Sport Tailpipes
AG Standard Interior in Black
P06 Power Sport Seats (14-way) with Memory Package
P9B Premium Package i.c.w. Power Sport Seats (14-way)
P9G Infotainment Package with BOSEÂ ® Surround Sound System
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:53 PM
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The Cayman is unquestionably better-looking than the Boxster. Always has been. The 718 really closes the gap though.

As for noise insulation, you might be a bit surprised. Do a poll here and I suspect you'll find a lot of people say the Boxster with the top up is the quieter of the two.

I was actually planning to get a Cayman since I already had the Miata. Decided to spend a few days in a 718 S but a Boxster was all that was available. Was trying to convince myself not to get a 987/981. I learned two things:

1. I was going to have ventilated seats no matter what.
2. I was going to get a 981 Boxster GTS for that glorious noise.

Of course now I want a base 981 Cayman too.

My poor wife.
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Old 07-11-2018, 02:01 PM
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Low spec, base car, 3+ years old. Price is not low IMO. I would definitely get a DME report since its a manual and make sure there are no troubling overrevs. I'd also give consideration to the tan interior, as the window reflection is brutal. So bad that there was a class action lawsuit about it.
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Old 07-11-2018, 02:53 PM
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@Archimedes, thanks for the insight. I'll take it into consideration next time I get into it. Maybe getting the side windows tinted will help with reflection?

I really like the look of that steering wheel in the tan car, but I don't like that it doesnt have ventilated seats (I'm in Texas). However, at least it has A/C. And my miata, its hot... with an old cracked ac compressor. I've been taking pride in slumming around in it for years. Just having cold AC is bounds greater than my current situation.

@Everyone,
Porsche dealer wants $700 for a 4 hour pre purchase inspection, where a rev report is included... I think it would be cheaper somewhere else?


The lack of maintenance on records since 2016 is a bit scary, but then again... I think it's more worrisome getting into a lower mileage weekend track enthusiasts porsche than a higher mileage 'fleet' porsche.
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