982 GT4 Spyder?
02-22-2018, 07:14 PM
#181
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Originally Posted by CaymanSinAR
I find it exceptionally sufficient.
I'm dying to know about the 718 Spyder and GT4 not because of the power, but whether or not it will be NA. If it is a turbo four I don't have any interest (because I'd just get a 718 S instead). If it is a NA 6 I am all kinds of interested. The 718 chassis with a NA 6 would be my holy grail.
I'm dying to know about the 718 Spyder and GT4 not because of the power, but whether or not it will be NA. If it is a turbo four I don't have any interest (because I'd just get a 718 S instead). If it is a NA 6 I am all kinds of interested. The 718 chassis with a NA 6 would be my holy grail.
02-22-2018, 08:51 PM
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02-22-2018, 09:22 PM
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Just wondering if there will ever be an end to the search for more and more HP. The first 911 I purchased many decades ago had about 200 HP, and I thought that was more than adequate. The current 781S has around 350 HP and apparently that isn't sufficient. I understand that Porsche loves this HP game because it helps them to sell cars and the more the HP, the higher the price. I've had the pleasure of driving a 987 Spyder on many occasions, and I thought that car had a perfect blend of handling, power, braking, feedback, and exhaust sound. I can't imagine that adding more HP to that car would improve the driving pleasure, at least not for the street.
Bottom line it comes down to how someone intends to use his car. If it's primarily a track car, then I appreciate the desire for more HP. For the street I'm not certain more power is required, except maybe as a selling tool for Porsche.
Bottom line it comes down to how someone intends to use his car. If it's primarily a track car, then I appreciate the desire for more HP. For the street I'm not certain more power is required, except maybe as a selling tool for Porsche.
02-22-2018, 09:52 PM
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02-22-2018, 10:13 PM
#185
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Actually, the chassis of 982 is tweaked, as it happens with each generation/model refresh. Here are excerpts from some of the reviews:
evo:
"....The styling has been subtly updated and the chassis has been revised, taking into account the new engine’s characteristics....."
Jalopnik:
"Aside from cosmetic tweaks on the outside and a redesigned interior, the other big news is a redesigned chassis. Firmer springs and sway bars, retuned shock absorbers and what Porsche says is a revised steering rack that’s 10 percent quicker on-center should make the new Cayman even better at handling, which it definitely did not suck at before. "
TopGear
"....That’s to say a thorough round of styling updates in line with the 718 Boxster, tweaks to the chassis, ......."
The next gen Spyder in 982 chassis will rock. Icing on the cake? Likely a GT roadster for the first time (not withstanding CGT as it was a Targa)! Yes, it has the potential to be my Holy Grail as well!
evo:
"....The styling has been subtly updated and the chassis has been revised, taking into account the new engine’s characteristics....."
Jalopnik:
"Aside from cosmetic tweaks on the outside and a redesigned interior, the other big news is a redesigned chassis. Firmer springs and sway bars, retuned shock absorbers and what Porsche says is a revised steering rack that’s 10 percent quicker on-center should make the new Cayman even better at handling, which it definitely did not suck at before. "
TopGear
"....That’s to say a thorough round of styling updates in line with the 718 Boxster, tweaks to the chassis, ......."
The next gen Spyder in 982 chassis will rock. Icing on the cake? Likely a GT roadster for the first time (not withstanding CGT as it was a Targa)! Yes, it has the potential to be my Holy Grail as well!
02-23-2018, 12:20 AM
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Just wondering if there will ever be an end to the search for more and more HP. The first 911 I purchased many decades ago had about 200 HP, and I thought that was more than adequate. The current 781S has around 350 HP and apparently that isn't sufficient. I understand that Porsche loves this HP game because it helps them to sell cars and the more the HP, the higher the price. I've had the pleasure of driving a 987 Spyder on many occasions, and I thought that car had a perfect blend of handling, power, braking, feedback, and exhaust sound. I can't imagine that adding more HP to that car would improve the driving pleasure, at least not for the street.
Bottom line it comes down to how someone intends to use his car. If it's primarily a track car, then I appreciate the desire for more HP. For the street I'm not certain more power is required, except maybe as a selling tool for Porsche.
Bottom line it comes down to how someone intends to use his car. If it's primarily a track car, then I appreciate the desire for more HP. For the street I'm not certain more power is required, except maybe as a selling tool for Porsche.
02-23-2018, 12:45 AM
#187
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Actually, the chassis of 982 is tweaked, as it happens with each generation/model refresh. Here are excerpts from some of the reviews:
evo:
"....The styling has been subtly updated and the chassis has been revised, taking into account the new engine’s characteristics....."
Jalopnik:
"Aside from cosmetic tweaks on the outside and a redesigned interior, the other big news is a redesigned chassis. Firmer springs and sway bars, retuned shock absorbers and what Porsche says is a revised steering rack that’s 10 percent quicker on-center should make the new Cayman even better at handling, which it definitely did not suck at before. "
TopGear
"....That’s to say a thorough round of styling updates in line with the 718 Boxster, tweaks to the chassis, ......."
The next gen Spyder in 982 chassis will rock. Icing on the cake? Likely a GT roadster for the first time (not withstanding CGT as it was a Targa)! Yes, it has the potential to be my Holy Grail as well!
evo:
"....The styling has been subtly updated and the chassis has been revised, taking into account the new engine’s characteristics....."
Jalopnik:
"Aside from cosmetic tweaks on the outside and a redesigned interior, the other big news is a redesigned chassis. Firmer springs and sway bars, retuned shock absorbers and what Porsche says is a revised steering rack that’s 10 percent quicker on-center should make the new Cayman even better at handling, which it definitely did not suck at before. "
TopGear
"....That’s to say a thorough round of styling updates in line with the 718 Boxster, tweaks to the chassis, ......."
The next gen Spyder in 982 chassis will rock. Icing on the cake? Likely a GT roadster for the first time (not withstanding CGT as it was a Targa)! Yes, it has the potential to be my Holy Grail as well!
02-23-2018, 07:59 AM
#188
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Yeah, it is bit hard to know what 'tweak' means without official description from Porsche. And, you are right; the steering is same as Spyder's. With 982 Spyder, I expect the chassis to be further updated. Based on the pictures of prototypes, the underpinnings and updates are likely to be same as GT4's. However, I do expect that the Spyder to maintain the street-focus, a differentiator from GT4.
02-23-2018, 09:19 AM
#189
I must admit that I enjoy the speculation about the 982 GT4 / Spyder. As someone who has owned several iterations of the 911 over the decades, IMO the Spyder is the best car that Porsche makes for the street.
02-23-2018, 10:16 AM
#190
I don't know specifically, beyond what others have posted. Let me rephrase.
I *love* the styling of the 718. Blows away the 981 (mostly for the Boxster). Still, I bought a 981 Boxster GTS because the overall experience was better. But man would I love to have a NA flat six in the chassis/body of the 718. Would be my perfect combination of style and experience.
I *love* the styling of the 718. Blows away the 981 (mostly for the Boxster). Still, I bought a 981 Boxster GTS because the overall experience was better. But man would I love to have a NA flat six in the chassis/body of the 718. Would be my perfect combination of style and experience.
02-23-2018, 10:47 AM
#191
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Originally Posted by CaymanSinAR
I don't know specifically, beyond what others have posted. Let me rephrase.
I *love* the styling of the 718. Blows away the 981 (mostly for the Boxster). Still, I bought a 981 Boxster GTS because the overall experience was better. But man would I love to have a NA flat six in the chassis/body of the 718. Would be my perfect combination of style and experience.
I *love* the styling of the 718. Blows away the 981 (mostly for the Boxster). Still, I bought a 981 Boxster GTS because the overall experience was better. But man would I love to have a NA flat six in the chassis/body of the 718. Would be my perfect combination of style and experience.
As a 981 Spyder owner I want to prefer the looks over the 718. But I don't. Initially I didn't like the 718 front end but now I think it's better with the rounder headlights. Same with the interior air vents. The square ones look dated to me now. Damn those guys at Porsche!!!
02-23-2018, 05:06 PM
#193
Biggest difference, other than the motor, to most will be the more direct steering. The 718 has the same quicker steering that's in the 981 Spyder and it is a noticeable different from the regular 981 cars. 718 also offers SPASM vs. the 981's X73, though having had both, I don't think either is better than the other.
02-24-2018, 03:49 PM
#194
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I suppose it depends upon your expectations. I remember the first sports car that I owned: Triumph GT6. It had about a 100 HP and a curb weight of around 1900 lbs. I raced that car in SCCA events and also used it for the street. I never thought it was underpowered. How times have changed.