mooty

congrats man!
i had one ordered but ended up not wife approved oh well.
now stop modding that thing. just keep the foot on it.

orthojoe

Ha. Thanks. I had to mess with you a little.

Mooty. Get one. Spec BRZ DE Asian gang. Think about it.
With the power this thing makes, all I can do is keep my foot on it.

pcw

Nice car! After having 2 sti's (06, 08), I know I would miss the 300HP. Will wait for the STi version. My modded stage 2 on my 08 was faster than my Spyder.

pcw

sfo

like the red stitching

preetham

Nice car Joe, one of my fav colours.
In test drove the FRS about 6mo and had similar observations. I love the platform, but waiting to see what Toyota does next in terms of power. It is on the top of my watch list.
Are you planning mods?
One of the reasons i was looking at the FRS was to have a track car so I do not beat up the Spyder as often. But after driving the FRS, with the lack of power, i find it more fun as a daily driver. Now, i think the Spyder is a better track car and i don't know what to do..have you had a chance to track the brz, how does it compare to the spyder?

orthojoe

Thanks. Only mods I will consider are track pads, track wheels/tires and a set of ohlins coilovers. I'd like to keep it stock for a while, just in case an STi version comes out sooner than expected.

The BRZ is perfect as a a DD. Spyder is a better car in all aspects, including as a track car. If you want speed/lap times/fun, stick with the spyder for the track. If you want fun and don't care about speed or lap times, BRZ/FRS is an option. I'm taking the BRZ to Laguna Seca in march. I'm expecting to be passed by everyone, but I'm hoping the car will teach me something about car control at slower speeds. Hopefully that will translate into quicker times in my spyder as a result.

bensf

Is a higher hp version of FRS more likely than BRZ? Toyota doesn't have a halo sports car that they have to protect unlike Subaru. I have a feeling Subaru is going to play the same game that Porsche does in protecting the 911.

orthojoe

Interesting thought, Ben. So far, the rumor mill for the FR-S is that TRD will come out with a supercharger kit. One BRZ side, the rumor is a STi model with 230-250 NA power. That is what I would want. 250 NA HP BRZ would be fantastic.

BTW, I tested out the brake master cylinder theory on my spyder just now. There definitely is some motion across the firewall when you slam on the brakes. Not as much as with the BRZ, but there is motion, nonetheless. Perhaps there is something to these master cylinder braces...

(steve, I forgot to reference your brake booster part number against mine )

jvmax

i think a factory turbo version is coming out this year on one or both of these

orthojoe

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/subaru/...rz-sti-planned

My prediction is that it will be unveiled in 2 years and for sale in 3.

bensf

Hopefully they don't take that long. They should act while interest is still high on these cars. I would definitely prefer NA over forced induction, witnessed too many issues at the track even with stock turbos/superchargers.

orthojoe

The interest is high and availability is so low right now, I just can't see them coming out with a new model one year after the car was introduced. If I'm wrong, great, because I'm going to be first in line to get one.

Yeah, forced induction on the track is just not a great combo. Increased complexity to allow failure, and increased heat. I'm not a fan of turbos anymore like I used to be. I hope the STi BRZ says NA.

JAhmed

Congrats on the BRZ! Great car, had my first experience with one just a few days ago as well. Came away very impressed

orthojoe

Quick update. The car is painfully slow in a straight line, and the tires don't grip worth a damn. Despite this, when you start to drive the car hard while entering and exiting corners, it is FUN. The driving dynamics are excellent, and the concept of less grip to allow more slip angle at slower speeds is neat. As as a DD, the car is perfect for me. We'll see what I think of it at the track after I get passed by everyone.

Here's a shot next to the spyder:

khooni

my fav colour combo.... blue and white