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Recently purchased a cayman S from carmax. 59k miles and mostly interior options. Carmax isn’t my first choice of dealers but the price was10k better than similar cayman s postings and it has the wheels and color I was looking for. Got the extended warranty through Maxcare.
I did a PPI after purchase since carmax has a 30 day return policy. Mechanic found bore scoring in the engine. They didn’t elaborate on severity. I’m thinking what happened is the last owner discovered the issue and was outside of warranty so they traded it. Driving it around the only symptom I’ve picked up so far is sooty tailpipe.
I told dealer about the issue and they’ve said they won’t rebuild or replace the engine yet since it hasn’t failed but that once it throws a code or engine starts losing compression maxcare ‘should’ cover the issue. I was planning on daily driving the car and I’m not too concerned about a more frequent oil change interval.
I’m still within the 30 day return window they have. Would you return it or ride it out? I love the car and have experienced an engine rebuild on my last two cars so I’m not unfamiliar with the headache of shipping an engine off for six months. This also isnt my only car. But I’m balancing that against the fact this is supposed to be my daily for the immediate future, and it’s a ticking time bomb on the engine (and my guess is pdk probably wasn’t properly serviced either if the engine is showing this kind of wear).
just trying to get some perspective on what others would do in this situation. Thanks
sooty tailpipe is somewhat expected for direct injection engines. Can't just go by that. Mechanics found bore scoring but didn't tell about severity, that's odd.
When I got my car with 23k miles, I also had pretty bad - sooty tailpipes, even had like blob spots all over the rear bumper. About 6 bottle of Chevron Techron Concentrate Plus Fuel System Cleaner and the blobs of sooth over the bumper or gone and the tail pipe is still dirty but not as much as it used to be. Now at 40k miles the car does not any issues and the sooth isn't getting any worst.
Originally Posted by Colorado Cauman
Recently purchased a cayman S from carmax. 59k miles and mostly interior options. Carmax isn’t my first choice of dealers but the price was10k better than similar cayman s postings and it has the wheels and color I was looking for. Got the extended warranty through Maxcare.
I did a PPI after purchase since carmax has a 30 day return policy. Mechanic found bore scoring in the engine. They didn’t elaborate on severity. I’m thinking what happened is the last owner discovered the issue and was outside of warranty so they traded it. Driving it around the only symptom I’ve picked up so far is sooty tailpipe.
I told dealer about the issue and they’ve said they won’t rebuild or replace the engine yet since it hasn’t failed but that once it throws a code or engine starts losing compression maxcare ‘should’ cover the issue. I was planning on daily driving the car and I’m not too concerned about a more frequent oil change interval.
I’m still within the 30 day return window they have. Would you return it or ride it out? I love the car and have experienced an engine rebuild on my last two cars so I’m not unfamiliar with the headache of shipping an engine off for six months. This also isnt my only car. But I’m balancing that against the fact this is supposed to be my daily for the immediate future, and it’s a ticking time bomb on the engine (and my guess is pdk probably wasn’t properly serviced either if the engine is showing this kind of wear).
just trying to get some perspective on what others would do in this situation. Thanks
It's very odd for a mechanic to "find scoring" but say zero about its description or severity.
Every single shop I've seen find scoring on M96/M97's (not 9A1's) has pictures and narrative.
Alright I’ve got some follow up with the mechanic and the dealer to do. I’ve only put a few hundred miles on the car so I haven’t really driven it long enough to see if the oil level is dropping.
Absolutely not. Clearly you need more information from the scope report. The problem with this paradigm is twofold: First you know that you have an internal engine issue which degrades your enjoyment of ownership. Second, what if you never throw a code and want to sell the car, or it fails after coverage expires.
Not to mention the uncertainty of how an eventual failure would be handled by the insurer, and you already mentioned that it would be your DD, and potentially be OOS for months.
Thank you everyone for your input. I reached out to the mechanic again, a small indie shop that specializes in older Porsches, and asked for more information. I've not used them before and their reputation within the community is unknown to me. All I can tell is they have good google reviews for whatever that's worth. They sent back is the attached picture. Engine internals are outside my area of automotive knowhow. How bad is this scoring?
As for the oil situation, the service records of the car show that of the previous owners, owner 1 and 3 seem to have had regular maintenance. Owner 2 has no reported maintenance for over 20k miles. I was hoping he had done services like oil changes himself, but give the inspection I don't think that's the case.
Thank you everyone for your input. I reached out to the mechanic again, a small indie shop that specializes in older Porsches, and asked for more information. I've not used them before and their reputation within the community is unknown to me. All I can tell is they have good google reviews for whatever that's worth. They sent back is the attached picture. Engine internals are outside my area of automotive knowhow. How bad is this scoring?
As for the oil situation, the service records of the car show that of the previous owners, owner 1 and 3 seem to have had regular maintenance. Owner 2 has no reported maintenance for over 20k miles. I was hoping he had done services like oil changes himself, but give the inspection I don't think that's the case.
They inspected cylinder 3. They stopped the PPI after finding the scoring. If I want something more comprehensive I'm going to have to go somewhere else.
They just stopped inspecting...? That's weird, I hope they gave you a discount on the fee since they didn't do a full PPI
They did, but at this point I wish they would have just done the full thing because now I have to look at a new PPI with someone else as I'm not a fan of how little information they have been giving me.
Another issue is that to know the full condition, you really need to scope it from the bottom (removing the oil pan). I don't think most places will do that. Going the spark plug route isn't telling the whole story.
Originally Posted by Colorado Cauman
They did, but at this point I wish they would have just done the full thing because now I have to look at a new PPI with someone else as I'm not a fan of how little information they have been giving me.
05-12-2024, 05:27 AM
Would you keep 14 Cayman S w bore scoring
