981 CS PDK - Carnewal vs PSE vs Stock (drone)
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I have a Carnewal GT and love the sound in town and "on the throttle". There may be a slight drone a lower RPM in 7th gear but I typically don't drive like that ;-)
BTW, I'm selling my OE 981C exhaust if anyone needs a donor to send to Gert.
BTW, I'm selling my OE 981C exhaust if anyone needs a donor to send to Gert.
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Question: Is the Carnewal louder then stock during cold start?
Leave for work early often and always concerned about waking up my son or neighbors.
Because of this I have been thinking I need to get a valved exhaust like soul for $4500.
But the value proposition is tempting to go with the Carnewal at $750 + X-pipe tips $600.
Question; does the Carnewal has the same pops and crackles as the PSE?
Leave for work early often and always concerned about waking up my son or neighbors.
Because of this I have been thinking I need to get a valved exhaust like soul for $4500.
But the value proposition is tempting to go with the Carnewal at $750 + X-pipe tips $600.
Question; does the Carnewal has the same pops and crackles as the PSE?
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Question: Is the Carnewal louder then stock during cold start?
Leave for work early often and always concerned about waking up my son or neighbors.
Because of this I have been thinking I need to get a valved exhaust like soul for $4500.
But the value proposition is tempting to go with the Carnewal at $750 + X-pipe tips $600.
Question; does the Carnewal has the same pops and crackles as the PSE?
Leave for work early often and always concerned about waking up my son or neighbors.
Because of this I have been thinking I need to get a valved exhaust like soul for $4500.
But the value proposition is tempting to go with the Carnewal at $750 + X-pipe tips $600.
Question; does the Carnewal has the same pops and crackles as the PSE?
As for the cold start question, I should have some info on that in a few days.
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Yes, I did the core swap option. Cantrell had no 981 exhausts in stock so I ordered from Gert in Belgium, and surprisingly it was a bit less expensive.
It shipped Monday, and arrived at my local shop here in Georgia 2 days later on Wednesday. I'm dropping the car off today for scheduled maintenance and exhaust install.
It shipped Monday, and arrived at my local shop here in Georgia 2 days later on Wednesday. I'm dropping the car off today for scheduled maintenance and exhaust install.
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I'm in Georgia. For someone closer to the west coast, Cantrell might be the slightly better value. Don't know.
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Question: Is the Carnewal louder then stock during cold start?
Leave for work early often and always concerned about waking up my son or neighbors.
Because of this I have been thinking I need to get a valved exhaust like soul for $4500.
But the value proposition is tempting to go with the Carnewal at $750 + X-pipe tips $600.
Question; does the Carnewal has the same pops and crackles as the PSE?
Leave for work early often and always concerned about waking up my son or neighbors.
Because of this I have been thinking I need to get a valved exhaust like soul for $4500.
But the value proposition is tempting to go with the Carnewal at $750 + X-pipe tips $600.
Question; does the Carnewal has the same pops and crackles as the PSE?
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Carnewal Exhaust Installed
Only 45 miles in so far, but 10 miles on the interstate and so far the 7th gear drone is definitely no worse than stock (might actually be better) and that's a huge result. Also, as best I can tell from inside the cabin, it's not obnoxious unless you want it to be. I'll post an update once I get over 100 miles on it. Will see if it changes. I'd be happy if it didn't.
Initial 45-mile update...
7th-gear highway drone: Definitely no worse, maybe slightly better
Good neighbor attributes: Not obnoxious puttering around town in normal mode
Sound: Better for sure. More aggressive in general. Louder on throttle with a really nice ramp-up, but certainly nothing crazy. Overall I'd call it "civilized aggression"
Crackles & pops: No change vs stock exhaust
XXX-mile update...
<coming soon>
One more thought regarding the drone... About 3 months ago I put the rubber trunk liner mat in the rear cargo compartment (from Suncoast), and that did reduce the drone. It was slight, no miracle, but definitely an improvement. If it were stolen tomorrow I'd buy it again. It actually has me wondering what would happen if I stuck some dynamat deadening material on the bottom of it. Anyway, that's another topic.
Will update again in another day or two.
Only 45 miles in so far, but 10 miles on the interstate and so far the 7th gear drone is definitely no worse than stock (might actually be better) and that's a huge result. Also, as best I can tell from inside the cabin, it's not obnoxious unless you want it to be. I'll post an update once I get over 100 miles on it. Will see if it changes. I'd be happy if it didn't.
Initial 45-mile update...
7th-gear highway drone: Definitely no worse, maybe slightly better
Good neighbor attributes: Not obnoxious puttering around town in normal mode
Sound: Better for sure. More aggressive in general. Louder on throttle with a really nice ramp-up, but certainly nothing crazy. Overall I'd call it "civilized aggression"
Crackles & pops: No change vs stock exhaust
XXX-mile update...
<coming soon>
One more thought regarding the drone... About 3 months ago I put the rubber trunk liner mat in the rear cargo compartment (from Suncoast), and that did reduce the drone. It was slight, no miracle, but definitely an improvement. If it were stolen tomorrow I'd buy it again. It actually has me wondering what would happen if I stuck some dynamat deadening material on the bottom of it. Anyway, that's another topic.
Will update again in another day or two.
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Question: Is the Carnewal louder then stock during cold start?
Leave for work early often and always concerned about waking up my son or neighbors.
Because of this I have been thinking I need to get a valved exhaust like soul for $4500.
But the value proposition is tempting to go with the Carnewal at $750 + X-pipe tips $600.
Question; does the Carnewal has the same pops and crackles as the PSE?
Leave for work early often and always concerned about waking up my son or neighbors.
Because of this I have been thinking I need to get a valved exhaust like soul for $4500.
But the value proposition is tempting to go with the Carnewal at $750 + X-pipe tips $600.
Question; does the Carnewal has the same pops and crackles as the PSE?
OE exhasut 981C:
Carnewal GT on 981C:
No pops and just the slightest gurgle when getting off the throttle in certain conditions. It sounds amazing.
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Question: Is the Carnewal louder then stock during cold start?
Leave for work early often and always concerned about waking up my son or neighbors.
Because of this I have been thinking I need to get a valved exhaust like soul for $4500.
But the value proposition is tempting to go with the Carnewal at $750 + X-pipe tips $600.
Question; does the Carnewal has the same pops and crackles as the PSE?
Leave for work early often and always concerned about waking up my son or neighbors.
Because of this I have been thinking I need to get a valved exhaust like soul for $4500.
But the value proposition is tempting to go with the Carnewal at $750 + X-pipe tips $600.
Question; does the Carnewal has the same pops and crackles as the PSE?
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Carnewal Exhaust Installed
One more thought regarding the drone... About 3 months ago I put the rubber trunk liner mat in the rear cargo compartment (from Suncoast), and that did reduce the drone. It was slight, no miracle, but definitely an improvement. If it were stolen tomorrow I'd buy it again. It actually has me wondering what would happen if I stuck some dynamat deadening material on the bottom of it. Anyway, that's another topic.
Will update again in another day or two.
One more thought regarding the drone... About 3 months ago I put the rubber trunk liner mat in the rear cargo compartment (from Suncoast), and that did reduce the drone. It was slight, no miracle, but definitely an improvement. If it were stolen tomorrow I'd buy it again. It actually has me wondering what would happen if I stuck some dynamat deadening material on the bottom of it. Anyway, that's another topic.
Will update again in another day or two.
I did not take before and after sound readings but my wife no longer complains about drone even in 7th gear and the increased noise from the headers and new PSE. We can now listen to music and carry on a conversation and even take a phone call at normal voice levels. I am not sure which area of sound proofing netted the best results with the drone issue but I suspect it was the Dynamat on the trunk floor as it had a hollow drum sound when I tapped on it before installing the Dynamat. The DynaPad probably helped as it’s a heavy three layer sound control mat. YMMV but I am happy with the results and still enjoy the sound of the flat six especially with the PSE on and heavy on the throttle.
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Interesting, thank you @Jim981CS !
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Natural1 (01-20-2024)
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yeah I jumped on it. I made an offer on another one and was rejected in November. I went away for thanksgiving and said I would pay the full price when I got back but it was gone. This one was cheaper so it worked out good for me. I was checking eBay 3-4 times a day. Good luck. You will find one soon enough. It is just how much people want for them knowing they are hard to come by. My dealer in NJ said they had maybe one for the whole year that they installed. I am just happy because my next move was the valved soul performance exhaust, so I saved a ton of money finding the PSE.
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