2015 Cayman GTS Purchase - CarFax oddities
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Hello everyone - I have put a deposit down on what will be my first Porsche. The vehicle is CPO with a 2 yr warranty. Upon inspecting the CarFax (link below) I noticed an oddity in how high the tire repair/replacement frequency seems to be—particularly with the first owner but also with the second. I count 4 instances of tire repair or replacement in the first four years of the car’s existence. Is this something that should be a concern or a red-flag? Is there any other aspect of the CarFax that would give you pause? I also thought it was odd that the third owner only kept the car for 10 months…is that not a bit atypical? I greatly appreciate the group’s expertise. Thanks!
CarFax: https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory/ar20/cJ6BtqJuX-reTyNYiPOFkAYFelOusvAuv2fI4zqL4tzHNWRFGtceWBLw-U13geZo9n7PxawpUh57-qQFYP_fZZiAraOBDNkI2y8
CarFax: https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory/ar20/cJ6BtqJuX-reTyNYiPOFkAYFelOusvAuv2fI4zqL4tzHNWRFGtceWBLw-U13geZo9n7PxawpUh57-qQFYP_fZZiAraOBDNkI2y8
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Link doesn't work. Could have been winter tires being swapped on and off. Or could have been tracked.
As for 3rd owner, very possible they just wanted a fun car for summer and didn't want to keep it much longer (or couldn't afford to).
As for 3rd owner, very possible they just wanted a fun car for summer and didn't want to keep it much longer (or couldn't afford to).
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Some people don't want to get a second set of wheels for winter and just go to the shop and have the summer and winter tires swapped out each year. I don't get it, but some people do.
As for only owning the car for 10 months, I'm a serial car swapper, with my longest time with a car being a year and a half. I *plan* on keeping my 718 for much longer than that, but I've said that about every car I've ever owned. I am meticulous about maintenance on my cars, no matter how long I plan to keep them, so I wouldn't let that be a red flag.
As for only owning the car for 10 months, I'm a serial car swapper, with my longest time with a car being a year and a half. I *plan* on keeping my 718 for much longer than that, but I've said that about every car I've ever owned. I am meticulous about maintenance on my cars, no matter how long I plan to keep them, so I wouldn't let that be a red flag.
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Looking at the CarFax, the first 20K+ miles appear to have been spent in Coral Gables, Florida so probably no winter tires involved for the first 2 1/2 years.
Four tires @ approximately 11K mile - Maybe the rears were gone, the owner switched to a different tire and purchased a set?
One tire balanced @ approximately 16K miles - It happens.
Two tires replaced @ approximately 21K miles - Look like he's getting about 11K out of the rears.
Two tires replaced @ approximately 23.5K miles - New owner replaced the fronts?
No tire work since 23.5K miles...I don't think there's anything bad going on there.
With the exception of replacing/repairing a front fender liner and front marker lamp assembly, everything else looks pretty normal.
Just my guesses...
Four tires @ approximately 11K mile - Maybe the rears were gone, the owner switched to a different tire and purchased a set?
One tire balanced @ approximately 16K miles - It happens.
Two tires replaced @ approximately 21K miles - Look like he's getting about 11K out of the rears.
Two tires replaced @ approximately 23.5K miles - New owner replaced the fronts?
No tire work since 23.5K miles...I don't think there's anything bad going on there.
With the exception of replacing/repairing a front fender liner and front marker lamp assembly, everything else looks pretty normal.
Just my guesses...
Last edited by TMc993; 09-13-2022 at 04:26 PM. Reason: Clarity
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The recent 10-month owner may have purchased the car with financial gain in mind with how crazy the car market is. Whether they got it or not is another story.
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All tires have a manufactured date code on them. Look online to see how to read the code. See if the dates line up with rears changed on one first date and fronts on the other. If the fronts are still original and the rears have the newest date, then you know the rears were changed twice. If they all have original dates on them, then you know it was a snow tire swap. If any of them have the original date on them (before Aug 2014) then they should be changed due to age and you can see if the dealer will do that for you. I'm not sure what the CPO has for a life span on tires that they have to comply with, but it should be no more than 8 years and the car was delivered to the first dealer in Aug 2014.
It's hard to believe they are going for $70k right now. It looks like it is right in line with KBB price. I hope it is in great shape. The car market is crazy!
Welcome to the Porsche family. Once you join, it is hard to get out. I tried, but I didn't last long before I came back. I'm on #4.
It's hard to believe they are going for $70k right now. It looks like it is right in line with KBB price. I hope it is in great shape. The car market is crazy!
Welcome to the Porsche family. Once you join, it is hard to get out. I tried, but I didn't last long before I came back. I'm on #4.
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At 23k along with the tires a 4 wheel alignment was completed. May have fixed any early tire wear. As far as keeping 10 months many look at a Porsche as a short term toy. Buy, drive for a while then move onto the next one.
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