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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 06:20 PM
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Traffic can be worse than terrible in Bogota. Much as I love my 6speed 968 here, my left leg would kill me driving in that city. Get an automatic of some kind.
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 07:48 PM
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take the suburban. tint the windows... last thing i would want to do anywhere in SA is to draw attention to myself. just seems like a baaaad idea... but you didn't want my opinion on that. whats the deal with your 951? i may be in the market soon.
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 10:58 PM
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Traffic can be worse than terrible in Bogota. Much as I love my 6speed 968 here, my left leg would kill me driving in that city. Get an automatic of some kind.
The 968 that I am considering is an automatic. Because of the traffic, most of my colleagues use taxis for personal travel.
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by sydneyman2007
take the suburban. tint the windows... last thing i would want to do anywhere in SA is to draw attention to myself. just seems like a baaaad idea... but you didn't want my opinion on that. whats the deal with your 951? i may be in the market soon.
The Suburban will not fit in the parking garage of my house nor any of the local public lots. The traffic jams would also make it difficult to drive.

Since the car would probably be driven twice a month, I am not too worried about drawing attention to myself. A 968 is not a high-end car. Many of my colleagues have new Porsche Cayennes. I would have considered a Cayenne, but I do not have the budget for it.

Below is a link to my 951.

https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...944-turbo.html

Without a doubt, it is the fastest car I have ever owned. However, it is too over the top and not pleasant to drive. It has been a DE day car only.
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 11:44 PM
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I visited the car at the dealership today. Any advice on a fair price?

I was a little disappointed in this 968.

- 1995 Red 968 Convertible
- Clean CARFAX
- 59,000 miles
- No maintenance history
- Car sent to auction after a trade-in at the local Porsche dealer (Porsche dealer has another 95 968 on its lot with 101k miles)
- Current dealer is 3rd tier
- Aftermarket wheels and tires (265/35-18, rear) that look awkward and extend beyond fenders by 5 mm
- Minor cosmetic problems such as the 968 emblem is broken off
- Car turns over very slowly before starting (maybe weak battery)
- Car idles slightly rough

Once again, I am looking to take a car to Bogota, Colombia. I will not be driving the car much and expect it to get banged up because of the driving conditions.

If I were to purchase this car, I would want to go back to stock wheels and tires. Before the car leaves the country, I would have all required service done.

I am considering other cars, but if I could get this one for a really good price, I would consider it.

Any input on a price that would make this a good deal?
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 11:59 PM
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Nothing worse than trying to get a bargain Porsche. If you like it then get a PPI so you know what $$$ you might be getting into.

Taking a potentially unreliable car to bogota still sounds like a bad idea though and a Porsche would as others have said may draw unwelcome attention.

I would think you should take a reliable SUV that'll be easy to fix locally.
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 12:20 AM
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Nothing worse than trying to get a bargain Porsche. If you like it then get a PPI so you know what $$$ you might be getting into.

Taking a potentially unreliable car to bogota still sounds like a bad idea though and a Porsche would as others have said may draw unwelcome attention.

I would think you should take a reliable SUV that'll be easy to fix locally.
Before I would consider buying it, it would go to the dealer for an inspection. At this point, I am just curious about the car's current value.

I already have a Chevrolet Suburban and a Jeep Commander. Neither of these cars can go to Bogota because they will not fit in the parking garage and they will not fit on many of the local roads. I do not fit in small SUVs but do fit in 944s and 968s. I need a small car that I still fit in.

Not too concerned about the make of the car. Most of my colleagues drive BMWs and Mercedes. There a few 911s as well.
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 01:38 AM
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having spent 12 years of my life in Mexico from 1996 to 2008.

I know i don't want any kind of vehicle that looks out of place.
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 01:52 AM
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If you do go ahead with the 968 purchase don't go to a dealer for an inspection. Unlikely they'll have anyone with working knowledge of the car due to its age etc. (I don't own a 968, so I'm assuming this).

I'd suggest a local Porsche specialist that sees these cars frequently and so knows what to look for. Just my 2c.
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by odurandina
having spent 12 years of my life in Mexico from 1996 to 2008.

I know i don't want any kind of vehicle that looks out of place.
But, if I do not take a Porsche, I cannot do events with the local Porsche Club. This is one of the primary motivations for considering a 968.

My employer provides transportation to and from work. Most of my colleagues use taxis for running errands. A personal car is a backup for when other transportation is not available. I do not expect that my car will see much time out of the garage.
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 07:30 AM
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Less than $10K for that car with no maintenance history, goofball wheels and simple cosmetic things ignored.

More to the point, what will it cost to fix once you're there? Little problems may become insurmountable based on a complete lack of parts or service?
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ppashley
If you do go ahead with the 968 purchase don't go to a dealer for an inspection. Unlikely they'll have anyone with working knowledge of the car due to its age etc. (I don't own a 968, so I'm assuming this).

I'd suggest a local Porsche specialist that sees these cars frequently and so knows what to look for. Just my 2c.
This is good point. However, the dealer that I would take the car is the same one that put it up for auction. Since they have other 968s on their lot, they apparently did not like this one. I was hoping to tap into this existing report. If not, finding another shop is a good idea.

I still have a few months to choose a car and am sure other 968s will become available. I will be looking at everything.

I am just curious, at what price does this car become a good deal?
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by tamathumper
Less than $10K for that car with no maintenance history, goofball wheels and simple cosmetic things ignored.

More to the point, what will it cost to fix once you're there? Little problems may become insurmountable based on a complete lack of parts or service?
Labor is inexpensive, and I am told there are plenty of first rate mechanics to choose from. As long as the parts are under 100 lbs, I get parts shipped in for the cost of shipping to VA and they would arrive in about a week. Maintenance should not be a problem unless there is a major problem and we need something above the weight restriction.

I had a similar issue with Jeep parts in Africa and it worked out OK. In Nigeria, most SUVs were Toyotas, Mercedes or Rovers. While I was there, I never saw another Jeep. Because of the terrible gasoline, bad roads and a driver that didn't care how hard he pushed the SUV, it was broken all the time.

Believe it or not, in Nigeria, Porsche Cayennes were fairly popular and the local dealers provided the service.
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 11:13 AM
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Gotcha. Wasn't sure if you're counting on it as a daily driver. But if you can live without it for a month at a time (some jobs require more parts when you get into it, and that's two or more shipping cycles), at least your expectations are in the right place.

And, not to be overly pessimistic, but there is literally no point where these cars become a "good deal". I've owned three front-engined water-cooled P-cars, one from each generation of the 9[2,4,68] line over the past two decades, and given the maintenance they require their "dealiness" can only be measured by your tolerance level.
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Originally Posted by tamathumper
Gotcha. Wasn't sure if you're counting on it as a daily driver. But if you can live without it for a month at a time (some jobs require more parts when you get into it, and that's two or more shipping cycles), at least your expectations are in the right place.

And, not to be overly pessimistic, but there is literally no point where these cars become a "good deal". I've owned three front-engined water-cooled P-cars, one from each generation of the 9[2,4,68] line over the past two decades, and given the maintenance they require their "dealiness" can only be measured by your tolerance level.
If the information I am getting is accurate, I do not need a daily driver and could live without a car for a few weeks or a month.

I know what you mean by "good deal". I have had many 924s, 944s and a 928s in the past. I had one 924S that was in sorry mechanical shape when I bought it. I put $3,500 into it immediately and drove it for 80,000 miles without any issues. I only changed the oil, tuned it up and did a timing belt. On the other hand, one of the 944s I bought I thought was in great shape turned out to be nightmare (89 NA and dropped it like hot potatoe). My current 944 is mechanically rock solid, but has an afinity for electrical issues. If there is a formula for choosing a reliable car, I have not found it.

I have never had a 968 before and was looking for some insights. Ultimately, I want something slightly cosmetically rough but mechanically solid. If I can get something cheap, I don't mind making an immediate investment to make it solid. At least if I pay to have work done in the U.S. at a reliable shop, I know it was done correctly.

Thanks for the input.
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