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cale 06-20-2001 03:03 PM

Tip vs. 6 speed
 
I'm looking to get my first 968 and I've seen alot of cars out there with the tiptronic, if someone could help me out with the cons/pros of it that would be great. I'd be happy getting a 6 speed, but the SO would like to be able to drive the new ride as well, and I was wondering how horrible the performance sacrafice would be. I've heard that you can loose as much as 30 RWHP because of it. I hope this doesn't cause too much of a flame war. Help, as always, is appreciated.

JonSeigel 06-21-2001 05:50 PM

Simple answer from an owner of a '93 tip: Terrible at 40 mph or below, great after that. Good luck.

Ahmet 06-22-2001 04:59 AM

You may loose a bit of torque, because of the gearing, but I don't see how any hp losses would be possible. MAYBE 1-2% because of more internal friction, if that...

I didn't drive a tip for that long, but I think except for the launch, they're not as different as people make them out to be, however the manual IS much more fun IMO.

I'd suggest driving both, before making a decision.
Ahmet

Tabor 06-22-2001 01:39 PM

over1g: Autos are a big power loss. If you talk to Devek (928 tuners) about dynoing Auto vs Manual, they claim you loose 10-15% on a manual, 20-25% on an auto.

Ahmet 06-22-2001 08:11 PM

You're saying autos loose 10% horsepower/torque on the same car, compared to manual? So on a vette with 300+ hp, I'd loose 30+with an auto, compared to a manual for example?

How do I get in touch with Devek?
Ahmet

Tabor 06-23-2001 08:08 PM

Yes. That is what I am saying. Devek. I am not %100 sure it was Devek that told me that. But I am sure you could ask them. They are supposed to be the best 928 tuner around.

I have heard it from many places. I think it is mainly that in an auto transmission you have a nylon discs being pressed together with hydrolic pressure. The power to press them together comes from the engine. This is power that isn't used in a manual transmission.

[ 06-23-2001: Message edited by: Tabor Kelly ]

Ahmet 06-24-2001 08:50 AM

I couldn't tell a very big difference after driving a tip 968 and a stick (save for the take-off). But this was in the city +what you say sounds reasonable, I'll look into it.

Thanks for clarifying.
Ahmet


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