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Old 04-02-2009, 11:47 PM
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Just wondering.

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Hand. The 993's brought the Toyota manufacturing attitude (which probably saved Porsche) into the mix.
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So does that make the 968 the last hand-built Porsche? Perhaps along with the 928?
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Yep! They don't make them like they use too!
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Hey this was a cool info to know, thanks for bringing this up!
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Just guessing from books I have read...(I am no expert)...I assume the 964 series of "911"s was also of this "Last of the Hand Made" group. The 968 would have been an older design and build system since it was derived from the 924/944 programs., and perhap more "hand made". Though the 968 was 80% new in 1992 the 964 was also called 80% new in 1991. Both of these Porsches where built in Zuffenhausen, and both ended production in about the same time frame, along with the 928. 964's ending in the 1994 model year and 968's ending in the 1995 model year. There is little doubt that these Porsches are the end of one very significant era of Porsche history.
Damian, your comment about Japanese production "(which probably saved Porsche)" is no doubt correct... but if it were not for the 924/944/968 series there would likely not have been a Porsche to save. 200,000+ Porsche sales provided lots of cash flow from 1975 till production ended. Though everyone thinks "911" when they hear the name Porsche, it takes all the 911's built from the beginning in 1963 till 1989 to tally up to that quantity.
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Originally Posted by Jacks911
Just guessing from books I have read...(I am no expert)...I assume the 964 series of "911"s was also of this "Last of the Hand Made" group. The 968 would have been an older design and build system since it was derived from the 924/944 programs., and perhap more "hand made". Though the 968 was 80% new in 1992 the 964 was also called 80% new in 1991. Both of these Porsches where built in Zuffenhausen, and both ended production in about the same time frame, along with the 928. 964's ending in the 1994 model year and 968's ending in the 1995 model year. There is little doubt that these Porsches are the end of one very significant era of Porsche history.
Damian, your comment about Japanese production "(which probably saved Porsche)" is no doubt correct... but if it were not for the 924/944/968 series there would likely not have been a Porsche to save. 200,000+ Porsche sales provided lots of cash flow from 1975 till production ended. Though everyone thinks "911" when they hear the name Porsche, it takes all the 911's built from the beginning in 1963 till 1989 to tally up to that quantity.
All true, but Porsche brought in Toyota manufacturing experts and they did a great job. 993 build time was much less than 964, and their 'just in time' component program meant they saved major dough in cash flow.
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the 993's MSRP was lower then the 964's because of this.
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And ... when you think of MSRP ... considering the fact that a 968 Cab was over $50,000 15 years ago and today you can purchase a new Boxster for that price, it would appear that Porcshe learned a great deal from the Toyota folks. Hand built is a nice idea, but the quality and reliability of the news Porsches seems to show that the Value of the new process is a Win-Win. We get quality cars that are more "affordable" today and Porsche make Big Profits, and we continue to enjoy the old cars as well.
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Originally Posted by Jacks911
And ... when you think of MSRP ... considering the fact that a 968 Cab was over $50,000 15 years ago and today you can purchase a new Boxster for that price, it would appear that Porcshe learned a great deal from the Toyota folks. Hand built is a nice idea, but the quality and reliability of the news Porsches seems to show that the Value of the new process is a Win-Win. We get quality cars that are more "affordable" today and Porsche make Big Profits, and we continue to enjoy the old cars as well.

Well, all the Boxster and 996 owners who had RMS issues would agree . . .
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Originally Posted by Damian in NJ
Well, all the Boxster and 996 owners who had RMS issues would agree . . .
Yeah - I have to say, as a lifetime Porsche fan, they have really done themselves a disservice with these RMS + IMS issues. I would LOVE to buy a Cayman, or even a Boxster S, but I just can't bring myself to take on the risk of massive engine failure without the security blanket of Porsche itself willing to back me up --- especially when you consider that there are some seriously low-mileage motors that are failing. Absolutely unacceptable, if you ask me. And very, very disappointing.
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Originally Posted by GoKart
Yeah - I have to say, as a lifetime Porsche fan, they have really done themselves a disservice with these RMS + IMS issues. I would LOVE to buy a Cayman, or even a Boxster S, but I just can't bring myself to take on the risk of massive engine failure without the security blanket of Porsche itself willing to back me up --- especially when you consider that there are some seriously low-mileage motors that are failing. Absolutely unacceptable, if you ask me. And very, very disappointing.
Not unlike the way they backstepped away from the 968 pinion bearing issue . . .
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Originally Posted by Damian in NJ
Not unlike the way they backstepped away from the 968 pinion bearing issue . . .
Agreed. Thankfully the pinion bearing issue actually has a viable solution...
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It is unacceptible indeed. But is it due to automated assembly? I think it's just a design flaw...?
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See pics. Somewhat automated but still alot of hand-made assembly

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