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Old 02-05-2009, 05:41 PM
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There, I've said it. It appears that the Pontiac Tempest (3.2L) and the Model A (3.3L) have it beat (as far as cars go)
Old 02-05-2009, 06:12 PM
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Don't forget the old De Dietrich @ 17 liters.
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Default ......largest OUTPUT !!!!

Originally Posted by Lemming
There, I've said it. It appears that the Pontiac Tempest (3.2L) and the Model A (3.3L) have it beat (as far as cars go)
I believe that the achievement was "largest OUTPUT from a production 4 cylinder engine to date." At 236 bhp in 1992-1995 it was the largest POWER OUTPUT of any 4 cylinder production engine to date.

That achievement was surpassed in 2000 by Honda with the S2000 with a bhp of 240 (quite achievement considering this engine was less than 2 L displacement).

You will find numerous examples of 4 cylinder engines with displacements greater than 3.0L

"It's not the size that matters, but how you use it .... POWER and TORQUE that is".

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Old 02-05-2009, 09:13 PM
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968 still wears the 4 cyl n/a torque crown though @ 225 ft-lbs, right..?
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Originally Posted by PorscheG96
968 still wears the 4 cyl n/a torque crown though @ 225 ft-lbs, right..?
Yes, I believe that is true. Although the S2000 has 240bhp, it only produces 153 ft-lbs torque @ 7500rpm. In fact the 240 Horsepower is @ 8300 rpm !!!

You have to really wind these things up to get them to go, but when they do they sound like an F1.

The 968 3.0L is a much more balance motor.
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Bracer, that's an interesting quad exhaust in your avatar.

S2000s are slow, the 240hp number is a gimmick that you usually never utilize or witness unless on a track, and even there they are nothing compared to a 968. I'm a total track newbie and I passed all 13-14 s2ks at the last event. They were all probably newbs too I suppose.

I've never heard of a De Dietrich so I don't think it's a production car.

The cylinders in this car are big. I've never really opened up any other kind of engine, so when my brother took the head off his 2.8L VR6 I thought his little pistons looked "cute"!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorraine-Dietrich




A De Dietrich also win the 24 Hours of Le Mans



Twice
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...e_Mans_winners



BTW, ENZO on the thread
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Originally Posted by PorscheDude1
BTW, ENZO on the thread
What got me going was one of the cars for sale (posted by Damian) stated in the ad that the 968 was the largest 4 cylinder in a production car. I emailed them with the correction and then posted here.

I wouldn't count out the S2000 as a quick car. The 2007 NASA TTB champ was John Slinkard who ran a well-prepped S2000, setting a blistering 1:36.5 on the pro course. In contrast, Jim Child, in his 968, holds the GTS2 track record at at Mid-Ohio with a 1:39.04 (Jim is fast!). Now in all fairness to Jim, Slinkard's s2000 is lighter, by how much I don't know.

Below is a link to a video of a TTA Evo chasing Slinkard in the S2000.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ondmRJIbaQs
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Its a shame they killed the S2K.
In all fairness, it is a great car with lots of potential.
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The S2K is a rather fast car. I had the pleasure of being behind one for a number of laps with almost some door to door action at Rockingham. Also had to fend for some dry pavement coming off the banking and going down the straight when he blew the motor WIDE OPEN throwing oil everywhere. High revs can kill I guess- or he missed a shift.... Tough break, see ya...
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The Porsche 3.0 I-4 was the largest 4cyl in production... when it was in production. So it was fair to put that in the adverts.

As for the pistons, nowadays the LS7 V8 has a bit more bore at 104.9mm.

-Joel.
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Originally Posted by Jfrahm
when it was in production.
-Joel.
Not sure I've ever seen that stipulation in an ad
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My 89 944S2 brochure only says: 'The most powerful normally aspirated production "4" in the world today.'
If it was advertised as having "The largest 4 cylinder in production" I think that would have been fair enough. Not sure if it ever was.
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Ever see a S2000 catch fire? Amazing,something blows under the hood and flames go up the windshield and over the roof.
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LOL that was kind of random...

I guess the s2ks at the track last time were driven by newbs. All 13-14 of them... Of course it's not a slow car, it's just not the golden nugget that some people think it is. This Slinkard fellow is obviously a stellar driver with a superb setup which often times can lead to victory in any car. I would love to test drive one and/or go for a ride in one though.


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