WTB 1994 965 Turbo with <40k mls
01-31-2014, 01:47 PM
#16
I just called..... he said let me guess what your you're asking about.... he said phones have exploded. asking 169K. I asked about a trade with my 60K 1994 + cash. He'll get back to me.
01-31-2014, 03:20 PM
#17
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Sale pending.
I think it's a gorgeous example as well, but the interior especially seems to be heavily modified. For $170K I would want it to be all original.
Regardless, someone is going to get a nice car!
I think it's a gorgeous example as well, but the interior especially seems to be heavily modified. For $170K I would want it to be all original.
Regardless, someone is going to get a nice car!
01-31-2014, 03:22 PM
#18
Good question...
There is a small handful of dealers in this country that consistently get the best aircooled cars. I'm sure any of them could give a dozen good reasons for not posting price.
The dealers I'm thinking of, have deep enough pockets and can hold these cars if necessary. In some cases even pulling cars off their websites to stop influx of ridiculous phone calls and offers on super premium cars they will ultimately get top dollar on.
For instance, why even list a price on something like a 1993 RS America or 1994 3.6 Turbo now - in 3 months the car could be 20% more... just one less phone call/question seller has to answer - Why was the car $105K and now it's $125K 3 months later.
Also - It has gotten increasingly hard for the top dogs to get the same premium cars they have been dealing the last 10-15 years. I believe they don't posted price, not necessarily to protect from the real competition, but the bottom feeder dealers that will buy anything and use the best cars as comps.
It's more common for these guys to list a price on a "good driver."
So the long and short of it is, not posting price doesn't necessarily "enhance" sale process...
more so, protect the dealers investment and time spent getting the best cars.
There is a small handful of dealers in this country that consistently get the best aircooled cars. I'm sure any of them could give a dozen good reasons for not posting price.
The dealers I'm thinking of, have deep enough pockets and can hold these cars if necessary. In some cases even pulling cars off their websites to stop influx of ridiculous phone calls and offers on super premium cars they will ultimately get top dollar on.
For instance, why even list a price on something like a 1993 RS America or 1994 3.6 Turbo now - in 3 months the car could be 20% more... just one less phone call/question seller has to answer - Why was the car $105K and now it's $125K 3 months later.
Also - It has gotten increasingly hard for the top dogs to get the same premium cars they have been dealing the last 10-15 years. I believe they don't posted price, not necessarily to protect from the real competition, but the bottom feeder dealers that will buy anything and use the best cars as comps.
It's more common for these guys to list a price on a "good driver."
So the long and short of it is, not posting price doesn't necessarily "enhance" sale process...
more so, protect the dealers investment and time spent getting the best cars.
Only point I would add to is that by not disclosing asking prices, dealers also protect their position when they buy their cars from current owners. Their businesses are primarily based on margins that they can make off individual owners. (the market is what it is...the more they can get off their purchase price, the better off they come out in the end)
For example, if I know that their ask will be $125k and will likely transact at $120k, the dealer’s offer of $50k for my car can be construed as offensive. They have to be concerned about that.
01-31-2014, 07:44 PM
#19
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Not necessarily true...some of the changes were already there. Unfortunately when it comes to the 965 not many options are available for personalization without buying what someone else already has. When I had my black 964T it looked just like yours...oh wait, yours looked like mine. Truth is if I like a mod that someone has, does that mean I shouldn't do it for fear of being called a copy cat....that's high school thinking.
01-31-2014, 07:45 PM
#20
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01-31-2014, 09:06 PM
#22
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I have to question that I have fully detailed pictures from 2004 this car went through some extensive but necessary changes.
All I can say is you can't go wrong it is cobalt blue!!!! nothing better unless it had black interior.
All I can say is you can't go wrong it is cobalt blue!!!! nothing better unless it had black interior.
01-31-2014, 09:20 PM
#23
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02-01-2014, 12:47 AM
#24
Market insanity. If 3.6's are @160k+, similar mileage / condition 3.3's have to be 120k+ at this point. And even at that, IMHO the 3.6 is not $40k more exclusive or performance-minded. That's an insane delta.
02-01-2014, 01:29 AM
#25
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02-01-2014, 09:42 AM
#29
to put it in perspective....that car was taken in by the dealership at 12 noon on Thursday 1/30/14....was then photo'd and listed on the dealers site at 5pm Thursday evening ....was sold for at or near full asking (169k) by 2pm Friday less then 24 hours later ....There phones were blowing up...everyone was calling on that car with no advertising/promotion.....the car is rare and never listed here in the states for sale and when they are they go as quick as you can blink.....I can google Ford GT's right now (that are also appreciating) and find multiple listings at any given time....not these.....they're the E ticket....
02-01-2014, 09:42 AM
#30
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Though the 3.6 was produced in lower numbers than 3.3, obviously, great surviving examples are few and far between for both. importantly, both look exactly the same. (Minus the wheels)
Personally, I'd rather have a low mileage (<15k miles) 3.3 than a 3.6 with over 50k miles.