Looking for a 964 3.6 Turbo
04-05-2013, 10:15 PM
#16
Rennlist Member
Thank you for all those that sent me a PM interested in buying the 94 3.6 turbo and I havent had the time to reply individually. At this time, I need to focus on selling my 2004 GT3 and will be holding on to the 3.6 turbo. After considering what I could buy to replace it, I really cant come up with any car that would give me the same enjoyment. And, any car that would, will most likely be big $$ and not appreciate like the 3.6 turbo will, but that is merely a side benefit.
Thanks again,
Thanks again,
04-06-2013, 09:32 AM
#17
Agree 100% ^ .... I have a 997 TT and a 3.3 Turbo and I would take the later any day of the year/time of the day 
However, I wish I had bought a 3.6 Turbo but considering the fact, I wanted to drive the car, not to mention the listers talked me out of buying a 3.6 at the time (9 years ago)
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Having said that I have no regrets buying a 3.3 and whether it's a 3.3 or a 3.6, there's nothing out there that can match the looks and the driving experience of this car
However, I wish I had bought a 3.6 Turbo but considering the fact, I wanted to drive the car, not to mention the listers talked me out of buying a 3.6 at the time (9 years ago)
, Having said that I have no regrets buying a 3.3 and whether it's a 3.3 or a 3.6, there's nothing out there that can match the looks and the driving experience of this car
04-08-2013, 01:58 PM
#19
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Just my opinion but with medium to high mileage 3.6's going for stupid money I'd look to buy something else. I love the 3.6 but a lot of other cars come into the conversation at those prices.
Last edited by Metal Guru; 04-08-2013 at 04:06 PM.
04-08-2013, 11:46 PM
#21
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I think with the build quality, design, engineering, performance, and recently Cobalt estimated that there are 200 or fewer in the states, I'm not sure there are other $85K cars around to compare. I don't see Ferrari, Lambo, Mercedes AMG's, Audi R8's, etc that I would rather own. In addition to the 3.6 maybe. Just my opinion.
04-10-2013, 09:02 AM
#22
Three Wheelin'
I think with the build quality, design, engineering, performance, and recently Cobalt estimated that there are 200 or fewer in the states, I'm not sure there are other $85K cars around to compare. I don't see Ferrari, Lambo, Mercedes AMG's, Audi R8's, etc that I would rather own. In addition to the 3.6 maybe. Just my opinion.
I have to agree...
I can't think of anything in that price range that has the credentials of the 3.6T, if just on production numbers alone. But we are talking one of the most rare birds of the iconic air cooled 911 line
There are very few comparable cars of the last 20 years and I think the Holt add for the car on his site sums it up...
"These are the last of the 2WD aircooled Turbos ( if you don't count the 993GT2 that was not sold in USA ) They were made only in 94 and are far less complicated and lighter than the 993 Twin turbo... 466 (3.6)Turbos made for USA."
No doubt these cars will fetch silly numbers down the road
04-10-2013, 09:16 AM
#23
Rennlist Member
I have to agree...
I can't think of anything in that price range that has the credentials of the 3.6T, if just on production numbers alone. But we are talking one of the most rare birds of the iconic air cooled 911 line
There are very few comparable cars of the last 20 years and I think the Holt add for the car on his site sums it up...
"These are the last of the 2WD aircooled Turbos ( if you don't count the 993GT2 that was not sold in USA ) They were made only in 94 and are far less complicated and lighter than the 993 Twin turbo... 466 (3.6)Turbos made for USA."
No doubt these cars will fetch silly numbers down the road
I can't think of anything in that price range that has the credentials of the 3.6T, if just on production numbers alone. But we are talking one of the most rare birds of the iconic air cooled 911 line
There are very few comparable cars of the last 20 years and I think the Holt add for the car on his site sums it up...
"These are the last of the 2WD aircooled Turbos ( if you don't count the 993GT2 that was not sold in USA ) They were made only in 94 and are far less complicated and lighter than the 993 Twin turbo... 466 (3.6)Turbos made for USA."
No doubt these cars will fetch silly numbers down the road
04-10-2013, 10:38 AM
#24
Three Wheelin'
Either way, super low numbers for a 911 Turbo... and that is only one of many factors that make the car super desirable and collectable.
... As if know one here already knows. THis is the 964 turbo forum
04-10-2013, 11:02 AM
#25
At these prices $80,000+ for a car with 60-70,000 miles that would most likely be needing another $10-$15,000 for oil leaks/servicing etc etc, I would say i'll gladly pass.
Now if you have the extra dough ($100,000) to spend on a 20 year old car that has 60,000 miles to just park it in the garage for the bragging rights of owning one, then by all means go for it.
I would rather have a car that I can drive and enjoy and not be concerned about it's depreciation/mileage etc etc.
On a side note: With being that old, these cars would need periodic maintenence whether you drive them or you don't.
Ofcourse maintenence is all personality dependent. I personally couldn't put up with small oil leaks I had in my '91 so I took care of that with an engine out service.
Now if you have the extra dough ($100,000) to spend on a 20 year old car that has 60,000 miles to just park it in the garage for the bragging rights of owning one, then by all means go for it.
I would rather have a car that I can drive and enjoy and not be concerned about it's depreciation/mileage etc etc.
On a side note: With being that old, these cars would need periodic maintenence whether you drive them or you don't.
Ofcourse maintenence is all personality dependent. I personally couldn't put up with small oil leaks I had in my '91 so I took care of that with an engine out service.
04-10-2013, 06:53 PM
#26
Anybody know how much they want for the two cars over at R &H Collectibles in Ohio? I've called them so many times over the years they don't want to talk to me unless I'm gonna buy the car.
04-10-2013, 07:03 PM
#27
Three Wheelin'
I think with the build quality, design, engineering, performance, and recently Cobalt estimated that there are 200 or fewer in the states, I'm not sure there are other $85K cars around to compare. I don't see Ferrari, Lambo, Mercedes AMG's, Audi R8's, etc that I would rather own. In addition to the 3.6 maybe. Just my opinion.
I have to agree...
I can't think of anything in that price range that has the credentials of the 3.6T, if just on production numbers alone. But we are talking one of the most rare birds of the iconic air cooled 911 line
There are very few comparable cars of the last 20 years and I think the Holt add for the car on his site sums it up...
"These are the last of the 2WD aircooled Turbos ( if you don't count the 993GT2 that was not sold in USA ) They were made only in 94 and are far less complicated and lighter than the 993 Twin turbo... 466 (3.6)Turbos made for USA."
No doubt these cars will fetch silly numbers down the road
I can't think of anything in that price range that has the credentials of the 3.6T, if just on production numbers alone. But we are talking one of the most rare birds of the iconic air cooled 911 line
There are very few comparable cars of the last 20 years and I think the Holt add for the car on his site sums it up...
"These are the last of the 2WD aircooled Turbos ( if you don't count the 993GT2 that was not sold in USA ) They were made only in 94 and are far less complicated and lighter than the 993 Twin turbo... 466 (3.6)Turbos made for USA."
No doubt these cars will fetch silly numbers down the road
To keep it in perspective, I am in Kuwait and have a American 3.6 keep that in mind. Yes I do think the numbers are roughly in the 200-250 car figure in the U.S
04-10-2013, 07:06 PM
#28
Three Wheelin'
At these prices $80,000+ for a car with 60-70,000 miles that would most likely be needing another $10-$15,000 for oil leaks/servicing etc etc, I would say i'll gladly pass.
Now if you have the extra dough ($100,000) to spend on a 20 year old car that has 60,000 miles to just park it in the garage for the bragging rights of owning one, then by all means go for it.
I would rather have a car that I can drive and enjoy and not be concerned about it's depreciation/mileage etc etc.
On a side note: With being that old, these cars would need periodic maintenence whether you drive them or you don't.
Ofcourse maintenence is all personality dependent. I personally couldn't put up with small oil leaks I had in my '91 so I took care of that with an engine out service.
Now if you have the extra dough ($100,000) to spend on a 20 year old car that has 60,000 miles to just park it in the garage for the bragging rights of owning one, then by all means go for it.
I would rather have a car that I can drive and enjoy and not be concerned about it's depreciation/mileage etc etc.
On a side note: With being that old, these cars would need periodic maintenence whether you drive them or you don't.
Ofcourse maintenence is all personality dependent. I personally couldn't put up with small oil leaks I had in my '91 so I took care of that with an engine out service.
04-10-2013, 07:07 PM
#29
Three Wheelin'
I have a friend also a member here "r993" has a Turbo 3.6 with 180,000 KM and very very reliable. He also owns a 993 Turbo with around 140,000KM. The more you drive the car the better it will be, I've driven both of them and they are very healthy.
04-10-2013, 09:27 PM
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I'm hunting for a little clarification concerning some of the claims made about the import numbers and value of the Turbo 3.6.
1. In his Original Porsche 911, Peter Morgan indicates that 288 Turbo 3.6s were produced for the US market in 1993. Adrian Streather, in his Auftragsnummer 964, asserts that 466 Turbo 3.6s were produced for the 1994 US market (the production number of 466, Streather claims, "includes [the] first 288 built, converted from 1993 model to 1994 model"). Patrick Paternie's Porsche 911 Redbook shows that 466 1994 model year Turbo 3.6s were produced for the US market. What objective evidence exists to verify that fewer than 466 Turbo 3.6s made their way into the US market?
2. The value of the Turbo 3.6 is apparently connected to its rarity. A car's rarity, however, is a sufficient but not a necessary condition for a car's value. The 996 GT2, for example, is very rare, but its limited production has not enhanced its current market value. The US market 3.3 964 Turbo, in terms of its production numbers, is rare as well, with 983 cars produced for that market. Are the larger front brake calipers, the larger engine, the Speedline wheels, and the reduced production numbers of the Turbo 3.6 (in relation to the production numbers for the 3.3 964 Turbo) the significant differences which push the value of the Turbo 3.6 beyond the value of the 3.3 964 Turbo? (If road tests of the Turbo 3.6 and the 3.3 964 Turbo are to be believed, then the performance differences of the two cars would not, in my estimation, serve as a sufficient explanation of the price differences between the 3.6 and 3.3 litre versions of the 964 Turbo; see http://www.weissach.net/964-993_RoadTestSummary.html for a partial summary of road tests involving both cars). What, then, is driving the value of the Turbo 3.6? I don't believe that the car is overvalued, but I'm coming up a bit short of a compelling argument to justify its value.
1. In his Original Porsche 911, Peter Morgan indicates that 288 Turbo 3.6s were produced for the US market in 1993. Adrian Streather, in his Auftragsnummer 964, asserts that 466 Turbo 3.6s were produced for the 1994 US market (the production number of 466, Streather claims, "includes [the] first 288 built, converted from 1993 model to 1994 model"). Patrick Paternie's Porsche 911 Redbook shows that 466 1994 model year Turbo 3.6s were produced for the US market. What objective evidence exists to verify that fewer than 466 Turbo 3.6s made their way into the US market?
2. The value of the Turbo 3.6 is apparently connected to its rarity. A car's rarity, however, is a sufficient but not a necessary condition for a car's value. The 996 GT2, for example, is very rare, but its limited production has not enhanced its current market value. The US market 3.3 964 Turbo, in terms of its production numbers, is rare as well, with 983 cars produced for that market. Are the larger front brake calipers, the larger engine, the Speedline wheels, and the reduced production numbers of the Turbo 3.6 (in relation to the production numbers for the 3.3 964 Turbo) the significant differences which push the value of the Turbo 3.6 beyond the value of the 3.3 964 Turbo? (If road tests of the Turbo 3.6 and the 3.3 964 Turbo are to be believed, then the performance differences of the two cars would not, in my estimation, serve as a sufficient explanation of the price differences between the 3.6 and 3.3 litre versions of the 964 Turbo; see http://www.weissach.net/964-993_RoadTestSummary.html for a partial summary of road tests involving both cars). What, then, is driving the value of the Turbo 3.6? I don't believe that the car is overvalued, but I'm coming up a bit short of a compelling argument to justify its value.