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Old 09-15-2002, 02:34 AM
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Thumbs up Changing the oil in the 964

I guess if you can afford to purchase a Porsche turbo, one could ask why do an oil change yourself. Like other things, I get satisfaction of doing things myself, anf if it is related to electrical or electronics.....then even better.

For all others out there that may also want to replace the oil and oill filter on their porsche, this is the procedure, well one of a few perhaps.

Also gave me the opportunity for an under-car inspection.

First put the car on a hoist, and then spend over half an hour looking for the oil sump bolt! I finaly found it located on the RHS at the front of the engine as seen standing at the rear of the car.

The bolt faces vertically down, and the socket just fits over the bolt because there is an exhaust flange close by to spoil things.

Be aware that as you unscrew this bolt, it is under spring tension, so hold onto the socket or the bolt, the spring and the metal plunger located at the end of the spring may fly out and be lost.

When I removed the bolt, the spring fell out with it but no oil came out, until I stuck my finger into the hole and dislodged the metal plunger. The oil then came gushing out. Don't forget about 10 litres will poor out so have the appropriate container under the car.

The oil filter is located more or less above this bolt. I had access to an oil filter removing tool which made the job much easier.

The new filter was filled with oil before being put back. Putting the oil sump bolt back in took a few goes as the spring is quite strong and because the exhaust flange is in the way, the bolt can be cross-thredded if care is not taken

I just used a screw driver to push onto the bolt up against the spring pressure, while slowly thredding it back into the engine.

Replacing the oil was a slow process as the first 10 litres must be carefully put in to avoid overflowing and making a right mess!

I then started the engine and let it idle for 5 seconds only. Another 8 litres was added, then started the engine and added the remainder.

Drove the care until the oil reached operating temperature and topped it up according to the user handbook, level ground, engine idling etc.

If I did something wrong or perhaps the procedure was lengthy please let me know for next time.


Bye for now.
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Old 09-15-2002, 09:08 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by PeterV:
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If I did something wrong or perhaps the procedure was lengthy please let me know for next time.


Bye for now.
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Peter

My engine oil change takes all day! I drive the car down to Porsche Centre, Melbourne. Hand them the keys. Grab a coffee with one of the guys down there. Walk around the showroom going 'ohhhhhh, ahhhhh'. Getting really motivated 'cos there is a 993 RS and a 993 TT there for sale....

Then I get a cab back to the office...

At about 5pm I go back down and get my car... (The RS hasn't been sold!). Play 'what if' in my head with the possibilities. Suddenly, there she is. My Turbo is all clean, shiny, and ready for me to drive off. I come to my senses and realise I have a wonderful, fairly rare baby, get in and feel right at home...

Quite exhausting, really!

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Old 09-15-2002, 11:15 PM
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Kevin,

I like your way of doing oil change <img src="graemlins/bigok.gif" border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" /> . My Turbo is up for an oil change in the next couple of months.

I only drove less than 2k miles in the last 11 months. Should I change my oil? It was filled with Mobil 1 15-50W.

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Old 09-16-2002, 05:33 PM
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Boy - I am really confused by this post.

On a C2 Turbo I drain oil from two locations: one at the reservoir just ahead of the rear tire on passenger side and the other from the crankcase which is ...right on the crankcase with the bolt pointed toward the driver side. None of these bolts have spring internals.

Total oil out of those two locations plus the filter is about 9-10 liters.

It takes one hour at the most to change oil and filter and I refill with about 10 liters. If I read Peter's post correctly, he has added a total of 18 liters, but that may just be a translation issue.

Sonny: you do not need to change your oil - you need to drive your car! Water builds up in the oil (you can see this when you adjust your valves) and just letting it sit there is not good.

Synthetic oils are good for 10-15K miles of normal driving, but who drives normally? If your oil is dark, murky, and no longer a translucent amber, then it is time to change it.
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JBH,

Thanks for the reply. I will check the oil for cleanliness.

I do drive my car but not as much as I would like to. My health does not allow it for the most part. I do drive the car at least once a week (sometime once every 2 weeks). Each time I drive the car it is totally up to operation temperature and driven for about 1 hour or more total time. I also make sure that I don't have moisture build up on the wastegate.... I always get on full boost at least a few times each outting... .

I am trying to drive the car more... But being just married and my wife can't handle being in the Turbo because of the acceleration, and such... So, I haven't done any serious twisties driving for a while... I feel bad when I am going out enjoy the car without her...

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Old 09-17-2002, 11:09 PM
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Hello to all,

I must admit Kevin's way of changing the oil is much more elegant than mine. Its just that I like to tinker and had access to a 4-point hoist.

Oh yes, JBH, 18L of oil was incorrect, as I only purchased two 5L bottles, and I think your way of changing the oil is a better method, and I did not know there was a drain bolt under the reservoir. That would have made things rather easier, never mind.

At any rate, after the job was finished, I couldn't get back home soon enough and take another shower because in the process I ended up with more than just one drop of oil in my hair. Then again it was the new oil so perhaps I should have just combed my hair back and looked real groovy!

Next time perhaps the 964 will go to the dealer for an oil change.

Cheers for now.

Peterv



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