The ? still out there how many 91 turbos imported into the US/
So we have been going back and forth over the total number of 91 turbos made. I think we need to have a dedicated thread to determine what the true number is.
The big name authors including Adrian claim 1992 units made to US spec yet serial numbers listed only show 674. So the first person to verify they have or have seen a Vin number over 674 for a 1991 turbo US spec wins. We need proof of the vin number in some way to make it official. The grand prize is the satisfaction of knowing you unraveled the dilemma for all of us and will be held in deep regard. ;) Thanks |
Could he
be in error ???......There were only 2,298 ROW 965s in the 1991 model year plus the 674 NA 965s
I did notice that there were exactly 1992 ROW Carrera RS units spread over 1991 and 1992..... I know a gentleman who retired from PCNA last year....he usually is up to speed on this era and Porsche sold in NA....I will email him and pose the question and let you know if he has verified data. |
I guess the question is not out there anymore.
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Originally Posted by Berkley
(Post 4566931)
be in error ???......There were only 2,298 ROW 965s in the 1991 model year plus the 674 NA 965s
I did notice that there were exactly 1992 ROW Carrera RS units spread over 1991 and 1992..... I know a gentleman who retired from PCNA last year....he usually is up to speed on this era and Porsche sold in NA....I email him and pose the question The reason I have not been able to verify the 91's is because I have 3 other reputable sources confirming his number of 1992 US 91's. Paul Frere on the other hand has the numbers all out of whack stating a total of 1,104 1991-1992 for the entire production and 5,323 total for the 94's if anything this is reversed but still incorrect. I have no idea how many were actually made but the majority of the community has always used the 1992 US 91's as the accurate number. If we can find a vin number in the 700's than that would answer a lot of questions but to date I have not come across one. |
Hello,
Thanks Amthony for kicking this subject off... Ours is number 528 produced in May of '91. That being the case, Porsche would have had to produce some 1400+ turbo cars in the following few months prior to the MY '92 production start-up. I'm sure they could have done that but, I'll be surprised if they actually did. |
Little Red Book -
8/90 - 7/91 Turbo US - 674 8/91 - 7/92 Turbo US - 309 8/91 - 7/92 Carerra RS - 1992 8/93 - 12/93 Turbo US - 466 |
I have #304 she was built 7th March 1991, so that 224 between mine and gr1275. But the assembly line is making ROW cars also so unless the vin# are totaly different its hard to extrapolate.
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Originally Posted by Flachbau
(Post 4573143)
Little Red Book -
8/90 - 7/91 Turbo US - 674 8/91 - 7/92 Turbo US - 309 8/91 - 7/92 Carerra RS - 1992 8/93 - 12/93 Turbo US - 466 8/90 - 7/91 Turbo ROW - 470001-2298 |
8/91 -7/92 - 470001 - 0836 ROW - TURBO 8/91 -7/92 - 480001 - 0309 US - TURBO CARRERA RS PRODUCED 1,992 CARRERA RS AMERICA Procuced 298 (PORSCHE 911 RED BOOK 1965- 2005)
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Certainly looks a lot less than was thought. That 1992 number for US turbo production does seem odd.
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Based on the numbers presented here, it appears the probability of a 674 number is far greater than that of a 1992 production number.
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Porsche did not get to where they are today by being dumb a%@es.According to Porsche, and Porsche N.A. (which some on this site reguard as un reliable), they were aware of the Energy crunch and the U.S. economy back in 91 & 92. That being the low production #. They did not want to produce cars they could not sell! Porsche N.A. records show for the 309 U.S. cars produced in 92 that 287 of them actually went to U.S. dealers and the 22 remaining cars went to other N.A markets, such as Canada, Mexico. ect.
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Originally Posted by Flachbau
(Post 4573143)
Little Red Book -
8/90 - 7/91 Turbo US - 674 8/91 - 7/92 Turbo US - 309 8/91 - 7/92 Carerra RS - 1992 8/93 - 12/93 Turbo US - 466 |
Originally Posted by al 965
(Post 4574456)
Porsche did not get to where they are today by being dumb a%@es.According to Porsche, and Porsche N.A. (which some on this site reguard as un reliable), they were aware of the Energy crunch and the U.S. economy back in 91 & 92. That being the low production #. They did not want to produce cars they could not sell! Porsche N.A. records show for the 309 U.S. cars produced in 92 that 287 of them actually went to U.S. dealers and the 22 remaining cars went to other N.A markets, such as Canada, Mexico. ect.
So I have 3 reliable sources possibly using the RS numbers for the 91 turbos and I need to double check the RS numbers but they have it listed as much less. Will check when I have a chance but it would be interesting to see what they have listed for the RS's. Although, for a car not imported to the US and appears to be rather rare and exceedingly valuable 1992 seems way to high a production number. |
I couldn't find a listing for any RS cars in 91 year model . They do show 120 carrera cup cars 499001-409120sn cars . In 92 year model they show 290 Carrera RS Competion cars. And also 112 Carrera Cup cars
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