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Old 02-14-2007, 01:55 PM
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Going to be installing PSS9s soon.

Looking to lower 1 to 1.5" from stock.

Wondering at what point camber plates are needed to get a proper alignment.

Car is mostly street but driven rarely so an aggressive alignment is good.

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Ryan

Or is it just that the camber plates are really needed if you want to make easy adjustments from street to track?
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Mine is lowered over 1 inch using bilstein shocks and h&r springs and I am running -.3 of camber. I believe stock specs are -.1 front and -.2 rear. Sorry, I can't answer your question on camber plates...
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You can dial in lots of camber without camber plates, so unless you are building a track only car you won't need them to get a proper alignment.

I was running -2.5 front and -2.0 rear with stock shocks and H&R lowering springs without camber plates. Changing camber affects toe so you won't go back and forth between track and street settings without a lot of work or serious equipment, camber plates or not.

I would recommend a -2.0 front and -1.5 rear camber if you run the car on the street and the track, I was running that for a couple of years and had good grip on the track and no problem with uneven tyre wear on the street.
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Originally Posted by Staffan
You can dial in lots of camber without camber plates, so unless you are building a track only car you won't need them to get a proper alignment.
I was running -2.5 front and -2.0 rear with stock shocks and H&R lowering springs without camber plates. Changing camber affects toe so you won't go back and forth between track and street settings without a lot of work or serious equipment, camber plates or not.

I would recommend a -2.0 front and -1.5 rear camber if you run the car on the street and the track, I was running that for a couple of years and had good grip on the track and no problem with uneven tyre wear on the street.
Thanks!! Good info...glad I posed the question.

Now sway bars...if they could just be found.

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I was running -1.8 front and -1.5 rear from a previous set up and the front tires only lasted 5-6k miles; we won't even discuss the rear mileage. I guess it's fine for the track; but for street use it's not ideal IMO for tire wear...
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Originally Posted by dholling13
I was running -1.8 front and -1.5 rear from a previous set up and the front tires only lasted 5-6k miles; we won't even discuss the rear mileage. I guess it's fine for the track; but for street use it's not ideal IMO for tire wear...
I have been running -2.0, -2.5 and -3.0 front for 6 years now.
Last year was the first time I had problems with uneven tire wear after to lots of street driving with -3.0 front.
If your tires only lasted 5-6K miles there are other alignment issues for sure, there is NO WAY your tires would wear that fast with a proper alignment and -1.8 front.
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We'll soon find out; I am going to adjust it back to over -1.5 for the DE season...



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