RoadKill

Just saw this on eBay today!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...%3ASS%3AUS%3A1

schnele

LOOKS GREAT.

C2 Turbo

Looks like a nice car and price seems pretty low too so how come no bites yet ?

VinnyC

I wonder why dosen't it show the S2 package on the Cert. of Authenticity? Wouldn't that be considered an option?

38D

I live about 40 mins from the area so I might try to get get a look at it.

DJF1

Correct me if I'm wrong here. I was under the impression that the S cars were not imported in the US and indeed they were about 20. They had the Turbo S induction holes on the side of the car, a special 3.3 , big reds, Turbo 3.6 speedlines etc as per picture attached below. I'm I missing something here?

Sameer

Lovely

38D

This is a S2. It was a US only car that was ordered from the dealer, but the engine changes were done by Andial.

Chris M.

If it's for real it seems like a steal, even with the mileage. I can't make out the badge if there even is one but it could also be fake too. Curious why the COA doesn't list the S2 option. Also, in another thread, user lwilkins who owns one puts up some pics and it doesn't have the front bumper ducts but rather the normal bumperettes and amber lenses. This ebay car has been changed to clears with bumperette delete. I like the twists too.
A "regular" 91 or 92 Turbo would probably go for around the same amount, no?
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VinnyC

This is the Andial upgrade "S2" not the "Turbo S"

38D

High mileage seems to drop the value rather quickly (not really sure why, as these are nearly 15 years old). I would think a normal '91-'92 with 75k miles would be in the $36k range.

Chris M.

Someone asked the seller if it had an "S2" designation and he says it's on the original window sticker. According the Adrian's book the price for this car was $120,492 and the price on the certificate of authenticity says $108-something. Maybe that was the price before the Andial conversion. The sticker should also have the M30/69S engine designation and conversion code TS2.

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clubrcr

I think these cars are having a hard time demanding a premium because these car are nothing more than a car with engine modifications, as well as they are 3.3ltr cars. They don't bring the prices like the Turbo Ss with the visual mods.

I remember seeing a black for sell a few years and the owner had a hard time selling it. I think it eventually sold for about what the "market" was for a regular turbo.

lwilkins

As owner of both a genuine 1992 Turbo S2 and a "regular" 1992 Turbo, I can tell you that there are 3 differences. The S2's turbo is somewhat different, with a larger cold side housing, and the hot side intake manifold on the turbo is slightly larger than on the stock K27-7200 turbo. The S2's intercooler is somewhat thicker than the stock one. And the S2 came with 964 cams, rather than 930 cams.

I haven't dyno'd either car, but I can say that the S2 goes somewhat faster at the end of the straightaway at TWS than the "regular" 1992 Turbo. On the street, there are so many variables I can't tell a difference. Plus the regular turbo now is a dedicated race car and is no longer street legal, so its brief forays onto the street to test something are always accompanied by the distraction of watching for the constabulary. (One time I turned the corner out of my street immediately behind a police car parked and watching! I reversed course and got back into my garage before he could turn around.)

Porsche put out a parts list of the differences needed to replicate the S2 engine, but the remainder of the parts are just differently configured hoses and brackets needed to fit the larger intercooler.

There were indeed 20 made, and my COA shows that it has the S2 option.

Hope this clears up any questions.

cobalt

One more question.

When are we going to get the good Dr. to find some time so we can get together and have these things dynoed? I am curious to see what numbers that bad boy is putting down. The 964 cams have always interested me and the larger IC is great but on another thread it is said to cost $2750 with exchange. So there in itself it is worth more than a stock 92.