Lightweight Flywheel Pros and Cons
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When getting my race car transmission rebuilt recently, I got a lightweight flywheel. (I'm racing as a PCA Prepared car, so lightweight flywheel is legal, altho it wouldn't be as PCA Stock.)
Observations:
Pros: It seems quicker on the shifts, but I'd better shift quickly as otherwise the engine rpm drops too much. I can shift quickly, so no problem with this, and I'm sure I gain some effective use of existing hp by not having to spool up a heavy flywheel. This is easier on upshifts than on downshifts.
Cons: I can barely get around the pits or onto or off the trailer without stalling. Since I've been driving a manual transmission in my street and race cars for the past 27 years in a row, I don't think this is normal, or that I need instruction in clutch technique.
Recommendation: If I were considering a lightweight flywheel for a car seeing mostly or entirely street use, I would run, not walk, from it. Only (barely) worth the tradeoff for real racing cars, in my opinion. On a street car, I'd be frustrated with a lightweight flywheel at almost every stoplight, or in getting into or out of my garage.
Observation: This parallels my experience with my 94 3.6 Turbo, where I got talked into a lightweight flywheel for my street car. Having more torque than the 1992 3.3 Turbo, the 3.6 turbo with lightweight flywheel was easier to deal with than this one, but it also transmitted a lot of noise, making it difficult for stereo, cell phone (I know, I shouldn't use one while driving, but gotta pay the bills for the maintenance!), and overall quietness.
Observations:
Pros: It seems quicker on the shifts, but I'd better shift quickly as otherwise the engine rpm drops too much. I can shift quickly, so no problem with this, and I'm sure I gain some effective use of existing hp by not having to spool up a heavy flywheel. This is easier on upshifts than on downshifts.
Cons: I can barely get around the pits or onto or off the trailer without stalling. Since I've been driving a manual transmission in my street and race cars for the past 27 years in a row, I don't think this is normal, or that I need instruction in clutch technique.
Recommendation: If I were considering a lightweight flywheel for a car seeing mostly or entirely street use, I would run, not walk, from it. Only (barely) worth the tradeoff for real racing cars, in my opinion. On a street car, I'd be frustrated with a lightweight flywheel at almost every stoplight, or in getting into or out of my garage.
Observation: This parallels my experience with my 94 3.6 Turbo, where I got talked into a lightweight flywheel for my street car. Having more torque than the 1992 3.3 Turbo, the 3.6 turbo with lightweight flywheel was easier to deal with than this one, but it also transmitted a lot of noise, making it difficult for stereo, cell phone (I know, I shouldn't use one while driving, but gotta pay the bills for the maintenance!), and overall quietness.
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My LW FW transmits some noise, but I have no issues whatsoever driving the car around. It is so nice I think this is how the factory should have delivered them.
My departed GT3 Cup was a different story. It was a finicky SOB in the pits.
My departed GT3 Cup was a different story. It was a finicky SOB in the pits.
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I agree with Charlie - I have no issues with my conversion. I use mine on the street all the time and I haven't stalled once. Yes it is noisy, but I like hearing what the car is doing. It would be annoying for a long trip though.
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All,
The light weight fw scares me. I need to be able to enjoy it on the street. I wish my Turbo is as easy to drive as my Acura Integra GSR.
Now that there are some cons issue with light weight fw, what do you think of light weight clutch?
I am not doing it anytime soon, but once I am ready, I would like to improve the quickness of the revs. And also to somehow improves the overall feel of the engine; it feels heavy from a dead stop.
I drive my car on the streets only and having fun once in while on the twisties and no tracks or DE (the wife won't let me do it).
Regards,
Sonny
The light weight fw scares me. I need to be able to enjoy it on the street. I wish my Turbo is as easy to drive as my Acura Integra GSR.
Now that there are some cons issue with light weight fw, what do you think of light weight clutch?
I am not doing it anytime soon, but once I am ready, I would like to improve the quickness of the revs. And also to somehow improves the overall feel of the engine; it feels heavy from a dead stop.
I drive my car on the streets only and having fun once in while on the twisties and no tracks or DE (the wife won't let me do it).
Regards,
Sonny
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I've had my LW FW and clutch for a year now and the car is as easy to drive as it was with the stock stuff. The reaction is a lot quicker and I am not concious of any additional noise. I have a slightly shall we say 'vocal' exhaust/header set up but unless you are behind me, it mearly enhances the entire experience!
I also replaced the main and slave clutch cylinders at the same time, not sure if that would alter anything.
I also replaced the main and slave clutch cylinders at the same time, not sure if that would alter anything.
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Originally Posted by SonnyV
All,
The light weight fw scares me. I need to be able to enjoy it on the street. I wish my Turbo is as easy to drive as my Acura Integra GSR.
Now that there are some cons issue with light weight fw, what do you think of light weight clutch?
I am not doing it anytime soon, but once I am ready, I would like to improve the quickness of the revs. And also to somehow improves the overall feel of the engine; it feels heavy from a dead stop.
I drive my car on the streets only and having fun once in while on the twisties and no tracks or DE (the wife won't let me do it).
Regards,
Sonny
The light weight fw scares me. I need to be able to enjoy it on the street. I wish my Turbo is as easy to drive as my Acura Integra GSR.
Now that there are some cons issue with light weight fw, what do you think of light weight clutch?
I am not doing it anytime soon, but once I am ready, I would like to improve the quickness of the revs. And also to somehow improves the overall feel of the engine; it feels heavy from a dead stop.
I drive my car on the streets only and having fun once in while on the twisties and no tracks or DE (the wife won't let me do it).
Regards,
Sonny
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Originally Posted by DrJupeman
Sonny, what are the "cons issue with light weight fw"? Three of us (almost in a row) have said it is great.
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I don't like any more noise then it is now. Must be getting older...
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I am just not sure what other cons are out there.
That is why I am exploring the idea of light weight clutch.
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I am not sure whats up with lwilkins car, but I would say it's atypical. I have the LW clutch and flywheel and it is as easy to drive on the street as the OEM unit.
Just curious why your wife is opposed to DE. In the novice groups it is pretty tame and the fun to risk ratio is very high
Just curious why your wife is opposed to DE. In the novice groups it is pretty tame and the fun to risk ratio is very high