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Old 07-18-2017, 05:22 PM
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Amazing amount of work involved.

I'm surprised Larry didn't go for a rain gutter delete? Especially given that the shop spent 3 days shaping them ($$$$). Would have made for a stronger, more aero track car, plus killer looks with that sans sunroof lid. Maybe he was reluctant due to his daily use needs (rain/snow entering the cabin when opening the door)?
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Discussed this with Larry - his/the shop's understanding was that the way that the rain gutter is formed on the OEM part (by rolling) actually adds stiffness to the roof and therefore to the car. From an engineering standpoint, this makes sense, but maybe there's other info out there?
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Wow. I'd love to make the sunroof go away on mine since I haven't opened it in years, but would cringe watching them cut the roof off.

Wonder if those 17" D90s are a one off, or if they will produce more of them.
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Originally Posted by spartansix
Discussed this with Larry - his/the shop's understanding was that the way that the rain gutter is formed on the OEM part (by rolling) actually adds stiffness to the roof and therefore to the car. From an engineering standpoint, this makes sense, but maybe there's other info out there?
Folded seam vs. welded roofline...

Of course it's strong this way, but I bet the factory also chose this method due to ease of manufacturing... and cost. The three panels, roof - rear fender - and side panel (inside car) are folded together and also create a rain gutter. Sounds good and also creates a handy rain gutter for real workd convenience. That's all good, but given the effort here (3 days of shaping) and how the car will used (on track) then it's interesting they didn't consider welding the three separate panels (instead of folding them together) to increase shell strength, reduce drag and cabin wind noise.

It's an awesome car, Larry is awesome, just curious. Especially when I heard about the effort to shape them (means it wasn't not done because of cost). Loved the video and watching the craftsmanship. BTW, look at 356s and 935 race cars.
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Originally Posted by Carrera51
Wonder if those 17" D90s are a one off, or if they will produce more of them.
https://www.augmentwheels.com/blogs/...-17-forged-d90
Old 07-19-2017, 11:09 AM
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Does anyone have an example of the gutter delete/welding process? Curious to see what is involved.
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Search over at the Pelican Parts 911forum for lots of threads discussing this. Member "Rdane" also completed (years ago) a stunning rain gutterless car.
Old 07-19-2017, 04:33 PM
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Saw this car in LA a while back at a shop called 911 Design (no affiliation). The owner must have poured cubic dollars into this project, came out rather nice... love the smooth, gutterless 959 look.
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Old 08-10-2017, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Carrera51
Wow. I'd love to make the sunroof go away on mine since I haven't opened it in years, but would cringe watching them cut the roof off.

Wonder if those 17" D90s are a one off, or if they will produce more of them.
Mark, check the link in my sig. I just had the sunroof deleted on my 993. Not as invasive of a procedure (also significantly cheaper), same result.
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Ilko:
Looks like you have another cool project in the works. Can't wait to see the finished product.
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Thank you Mark. We are in the final stretch!
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Sounds like a story idea for Panorama!
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Originally Posted by ilko
Mark, check the link in my sig. I just had the sunroof deleted on my 993. Not as invasive of a procedure (also significantly cheaper), same result.
Was that panel store bought or custom made? Will it work on a 964?

Thanks
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Originally Posted by Carrera51
Sounds like a story idea for Panorama!
I see what you did there

Originally Posted by rkwfxd
Was that panel store bought or custom made? Will it work on a 964?

Thanks
I purchased it from Fenn Lane Motorsport in the U.K. It works on ALL air-cooled 911s. But before you buy it make sure you have an EXCELLENT body shop that can do amazing metalwork. Or you will be disappointed. And to do the job right and install an OEM non-sunroof headliner all glass has to come out as well.


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