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Old 02-12-2020, 11:19 AM
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Does anyone have a photo of what the connectors look like once the original hose and its crimp collar have been removed? I realize there is more than one type of connector, but if anyone has a photo or two it would be educational. Are they straight, flared, barbed?

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Old 02-13-2020, 08:26 AM
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How did you handle connections to the fuel pressure regulator ? Or did you /did you not replace fuel lines going to rails??
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Has anyone used this kit from mason engineering? I cant find a single review on it..

https://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog..._pg1.htm#item2
Old 06-05-2020, 01:58 AM
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Super basic question for those that have done this. When you use AN6 fittings, these can be assembled with AN6 fuel hose yourself as it looks like they screw-clamp the hose? i.e. no need to go to a hydraulic line shop to have the ends fitted?
Old 06-05-2020, 04:06 AM
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yep. no need for professional help. You have to tighten the AN6 fittings quite well, but i had no problem so far replacing the fuel lines from the tank up to the injectors with an AN6 dash setup...
Old 06-05-2020, 08:36 AM
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Yes, you can make your own fuel line using Aeroquip (or a similar brand) fittings and stainless braided hose. The fittings are easy to assemble if you have a vice to hold the fittings. If you need specific instructions let me know. I am sure U-Tube has instructions.
The biggest issue you will have is figuring out what fittings you need and what conversion fittings you need. If you go as far as replacing the fuel lines going to the fuel rails you will need to obtain special metric fittings to mate to the fuel rails but can also be used with the braided fuel line. You can assemble these as well. A few metric to AN adapters at the fuel filter also.
All in all, it is an easy task, just take your time and make good measurements and clean cuts. Make sure you flush line / clean before putting on car.
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Old 06-05-2020, 01:39 PM
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Thanks Gus, very much appreciated. Made it easy on myself and got the Paul Mason engine bay fuel lines that are incoming for the engine bay lines so that should be straightforward. Paired that with a 928 Motorsports adjustable billet FPR because of the NLA status of the OEM FPR. Decided to go ahead and jump down the rabbit hole while I'm at it and inspect / replace the long fuel lines, likely all of them but most importantly the high pressure supply line. Here's what I am planning so far, any feedback appreciated.

1) Aeroquip AN6 racing hose (stainless), 20 ft to be safe for each run x 3. Read it's only about 14 ft but I like buffer
2) Earl AN6 to metric fittings (working out exactly what I need but post #2 above is a great start and deciding between the 90 deg vs. the 180 deg at the pump end. Will update this post with final parts so others can hopefully have an easier time in the future)
3) Hose cutter (for a clean sharp end)
4) Vise with insert to hold AN fittings for easy assembly
5) AN6 wrench
6) Lube or oil if necessary for the assembly
7) Pipe cutter to cut out the old hard fuel line (since I don't have a lift, and I'm not saving this fuel line, I thought I'd just make life easy on myself by not struggling with the removal. Hopefully this means I can keep the lower strut bolt attached for removal and insertion of the new line.
8) New fuel pump because why not, I'm already there. Will plan to reverse it like in the 993 and get the corresponding line from the tank to the pump.

This will be done while the car is on a quickjack and as part of a larger "intake madness / top of engine cleanup and refurbishment"

My questions are:
1) Will the stainless AN6 hose I'm looking at fit in the center tunnel of our cars? I chose stainless for the superior rubbing / abrasion properties given the length and location of the lines. I was planning to run 3 of them to replace the 3 lines on our cars according to PET. Each has OD of 0.55 in and a 2.5 in min bend radius. If there is a better solution or if I should go smaller for the return line, please chime in
2) Before installing the lines Gus recommends flushing / cleaning the inside of the hose. Would this be with fuel or something else? Trying to minimize how much open fuel I have at any given time.
3) Anything else I should be thinking about or know before I tackle this?

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Originally Posted by Sam Greene
Has anyone used this kit from mason engineering? I cant find a single review on it..

https://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog..._pg1.htm#item2
I just received a set yesterday. I have not installed them yet but my mechanic was impressed with the look and quality (I am too). Paul Mason is a really good guy to deal with. He is currently a fuel systems engineer for Bosch and is quite knowledgeable. I have a thread on my Targa rebuild and plan to comment about the Mason Engineering fuel lines after the lines and intake and installed and the engine is back in the car - next week. The thread is "964 Targa - 10 years in the desert"


here is the original cluster of fuel hoses connected in case this helps with your question.



Here is the set of fuel lines before installation.
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Old 05-11-2021, 11:00 AM
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Continuing this great thread with a follow up question: Any complaints on the Paul Mason kit after install? Did anyone do the math and see how much savings is on the table to build the engine bay lines yourself using AN/AQ?
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Old 05-11-2021, 01:15 PM
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I will be doing mine in a few weeks and will reply back. Lines look good as received from Paul.
Old 05-11-2021, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by titleistaddict87
Will plan to reverse it like in the 993 and get the corresponding line from the tank to the pump.
What’s this 993 pump difference all about??


I’m going through my fuel system this year and planning on adapting the existing hardline to AN-6. Bought the adapters for the 10mm high pressure line at Lindsey Racing.

Pete
Old 05-13-2021, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Peteinjp
What’s this 993 pump difference all about??


I’m going through my fuel system this year and planning on adapting the existing hardline to AN-6. Bought the adapters for the 10mm high pressure line at Lindsey Racing.

Pete
993 difference or late model 964 difference?

https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...l#post13966652
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I see the banjo adapter for the fuel pump shown above is linked to an ebay listing that states 12.5mm eye. Is this option on Amazon going to be sufficient?
Vibrant Performance 11523-6An Male Banjo Fitting 12mm x 1.5 Metric; Aluminum + 2 Washers, 1 Pack (amazon.com) Vibrant Performance 11523-6An Male Banjo Fitting 12mm x 1.5 Metric; Aluminum + 2 Washers, 1 Pack (amazon.com)

Also found this - which seems more appropriate
Amazon.com: Aluminum Fuel Banjo Adapter Kit Set for Bosch 044 Fuel Pump - 6AN Male to 12mm Outlet Banjo Bolt Adapter Fitting and M12 x 1.5 Female Cap with M12 Copper Washers : Automotive Amazon.com: Aluminum Fuel Banjo Adapter Kit Set for Bosch 044 Fuel Pump - 6AN Male to 12mm Outlet Banjo Bolt Adapter Fitting and M12 x 1.5 Female Cap with M12 Copper Washers : Automotive
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Nevermind - helps to find every fitting…





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Old 02-26-2023, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jeff33702
Nevermind - helps to find every fitting…



yea I remember thinking something similar and then when I went to do it it was obvious and went without a hitch.



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