official intro: finally, my first pcar
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for a few years now i've been wanting to pick up a 911 cabriolet of some kind but never really making up my mind. as you can see from my 2012 join date, it's been a while. the original debate was with a 993 turbo or 997.2 turbo s. then i started looking at the newer 991. it's mostly a weekend toy and so making the decision was never a priority and before i realized it, a few years went by...and the 993 turbos that could be found for $<$60k are now double/triple that and you can't even get a clean non-turbo widebody for that price now. you snooze you loose, but that's life eh?
what prompted the new search is a few car buddies all jumping into the air-cooled scene. i started looking again and was shocked at how much they all cost now! the wifey and i just closed escrow on a new house about 2 months so no additional budget for a new toy...but i wanted one so bad (especially seeing that they are getting more and more expensive to buy)
so about 2.5 months ago i started searching for a 993 cabriolet. then i widened the search to 964 cabs when i saw that it was difficult to find a clean, well taken care of car for <$30k (my original budget). after learning more about the 964 chassis and test driving a few local cars, i actually took a better liking to the older generation.
my criteria were:
964 cabriolet
5 speed
C4 (i preferred the way it drove on the street...and she's not going to the track)
clean tan or black interior
any color exterior because i plan on repainting
recent reseal or sub <90k miles on engine
about a week ago, i saw a listing for what seemed to be the perfect car for me. 1990 c4 cab, 5 speed, 150k on the chassis, recent factory spec engine rebuild at a reputable shop, "concourse" forrest green re-paint (i doubt it's concourse...but i'm going to be painting it anyways), freshly redone interior in factory tan, and asking for $29.5k
the car is from snow country so i asked for a PPI checking for mechanicals as well as rust. although all didn't check out 100% as i hoped, i adjusted my offer based on the findings, which the seller accepted.
so here she is, ta-da! no quite the original plan of a 993 or 997.2 turbo cab, but i do finally have drop top pawsha!!
here's she is, first morning at her new home
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i've just place an order for the d.morris hardtop (and also the speedster hump). drop top when i want the wind in my pre-midlife crisis hair, and classic clean 964 coupe lines when the wifey gets sick of the wind in her non-midlife crisis hairdo. i may consider doing away with the entire soft top entirely and switch between the hardtop and speedster hump to save some weight at a high point in the rear of the car.
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/158700121.jpg)
over the next few weeks i'll be refreshing some worn out part, bolt-on suspension upgrades, and then moving to a engine rebuild, re-doing the interior, full repaint, and so forth.
that said, hi gang, i'm sam
what prompted the new search is a few car buddies all jumping into the air-cooled scene. i started looking again and was shocked at how much they all cost now! the wifey and i just closed escrow on a new house about 2 months so no additional budget for a new toy...but i wanted one so bad (especially seeing that they are getting more and more expensive to buy)
so about 2.5 months ago i started searching for a 993 cabriolet. then i widened the search to 964 cabs when i saw that it was difficult to find a clean, well taken care of car for <$30k (my original budget). after learning more about the 964 chassis and test driving a few local cars, i actually took a better liking to the older generation.
my criteria were:
964 cabriolet
5 speed
C4 (i preferred the way it drove on the street...and she's not going to the track)
clean tan or black interior
any color exterior because i plan on repainting
recent reseal or sub <90k miles on engine
about a week ago, i saw a listing for what seemed to be the perfect car for me. 1990 c4 cab, 5 speed, 150k on the chassis, recent factory spec engine rebuild at a reputable shop, "concourse" forrest green re-paint (i doubt it's concourse...but i'm going to be painting it anyways), freshly redone interior in factory tan, and asking for $29.5k
the car is from snow country so i asked for a PPI checking for mechanicals as well as rust. although all didn't check out 100% as i hoped, i adjusted my offer based on the findings, which the seller accepted.
so here she is, ta-da! no quite the original plan of a 993 or 997.2 turbo cab, but i do finally have drop top pawsha!!
here's she is, first morning at her new home
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159040486.jpg)
i've just place an order for the d.morris hardtop (and also the speedster hump). drop top when i want the wind in my pre-midlife crisis hair, and classic clean 964 coupe lines when the wifey gets sick of the wind in her non-midlife crisis hairdo. i may consider doing away with the entire soft top entirely and switch between the hardtop and speedster hump to save some weight at a high point in the rear of the car.
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/158700121.jpg)
over the next few weeks i'll be refreshing some worn out part, bolt-on suspension upgrades, and then moving to a engine rebuild, re-doing the interior, full repaint, and so forth.
that said, hi gang, i'm sam
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Nice but why buy a cab to turn it into a coupe. By the time you buy the hardtop you could have bought a coupe with a sunroof and let the hair blow
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Congrats! Looks nice.
I have the D.Moris hardtop, just need to have it painted and figure out how to install - instructions are useless. It is definitely nicely made.
Why do you say you will be moving to a engine rebuild when you say it already had a recent factory spec rebuild?
I have the D.Moris hardtop, just need to have it painted and figure out how to install - instructions are useless. It is definitely nicely made.
Why do you say you will be moving to a engine rebuild when you say it already had a recent factory spec rebuild?
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i'm following this recent one right now: https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...-964-a-13.html
thanks! loving the car more and more everyday.
Congrats! Looks nice.
I have the D.Moris hardtop, just need to have it painted and figure out how to install - instructions are useless. It is definitely nicely made.
Why do you say you will be moving to a engine rebuild when you say it already had a recent factory spec rebuild?
I have the D.Moris hardtop, just need to have it painted and figure out how to install - instructions are useless. It is definitely nicely made.
Why do you say you will be moving to a engine rebuild when you say it already had a recent factory spec rebuild?
unfortunately engine rebuild was a "mistake" in the listing. receipts show there was a top end reseal a while back. anyways, that was one of "bad news" from the PPI (as i mentioned, i adjusted my offer to what i felt was fair for the condition of the car).
after driving the car for a couple weeks, i want a bit more grunt. not quite sure what route to take exactly to extract/make though. perhaps stock rebuild + supercharger, hot-rod 3.6, 3.8, turbo??? just doing a bunch of reading online right now to see what makes most sense
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here's the first parts of the "refresh"
full set of keys, as if purchased the car new from the dealer back in 1990 (courtesy of fleabay)
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159119872.jpg)
replaced dome light what fell out every time i hit a bump. updated light has metal nubs whereas the originals were plastic and worn or broken. part #911-632-102-00-70A-M100
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159120614.jpg)
new "made in germany" sticker is waaaay bigger![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159120612.jpg)
no more falling dome light!
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159120610.jpg)
i wanted to tackle the new rotors, pads, SS lines, s[rings, brighter lights for the frunk, light(er) weight battery this weekend but valentines day got in the way...oh wells, happy wife = happy life
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159119871.jpg)
btw, the battery holder is from odessey. it looks identical to the rennline ones, but like $20 cheaper. picked both up from amazon
full set of keys, as if purchased the car new from the dealer back in 1990 (courtesy of fleabay)
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159119872.jpg)
replaced dome light what fell out every time i hit a bump. updated light has metal nubs whereas the originals were plastic and worn or broken. part #911-632-102-00-70A-M100
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159120614.jpg)
new "made in germany" sticker is waaaay bigger
![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159120612.jpg)
no more falling dome light!
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159120610.jpg)
i wanted to tackle the new rotors, pads, SS lines, s[rings, brighter lights for the frunk, light(er) weight battery this weekend but valentines day got in the way...oh wells, happy wife = happy life
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159119871.jpg)
btw, the battery holder is from odessey. it looks identical to the rennline ones, but like $20 cheaper. picked both up from amazon
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got around to installing the fabspeed primary bypass yesterday, but i was expecting a bit much and was disappointed at the sound. it doesn't sound as aggressive as the video clips i watched online. just purchased a cat bypass to get a little more grunt and hopefully some more beautiful noise too!
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159152645.jpg)
I also removed the frunk carpets, the spare/air-compressor/jack/wrench, and gave the inside a really good wipe down. about 45lbs saved!! also, installed the rennspeed strut brace while i was in there.
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159147297.jpg)
some minor refresh mods:
replaced the missing door mirror switch ****. part# 9116130820001C if anyone else's went MIA like mine
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159147296.jpg)
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159147294.jpg)
replaced the cassette holder with a much more practical tray. part# 964552159001DB for the center console storage tray and 99355209100 for the rubber storage tray insert
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159147293.jpg)
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159147292.jpg)
going to be dropping off the car at a local shop for a suspension refresh and bushing upgrade. elephant racing supplied the parts and chuck was more than helpful explain everything. can't wait to feel how the car handles!!
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159152645.jpg)
I also removed the frunk carpets, the spare/air-compressor/jack/wrench, and gave the inside a really good wipe down. about 45lbs saved!! also, installed the rennspeed strut brace while i was in there.
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159147297.jpg)
some minor refresh mods:
replaced the missing door mirror switch ****. part# 9116130820001C if anyone else's went MIA like mine
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159147296.jpg)
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159147294.jpg)
replaced the cassette holder with a much more practical tray. part# 964552159001DB for the center console storage tray and 99355209100 for the rubber storage tray insert
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159147293.jpg)
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159147292.jpg)
going to be dropping off the car at a local shop for a suspension refresh and bushing upgrade. elephant racing supplied the parts and chuck was more than helpful explain everything. can't wait to feel how the car handles!!
![](https://www.pbase.com/sy0296/image/159152656.jpg)