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If you didn't get a CEL then it is provably in limp mode. These cars are typically pretty bulletproof mechanically. I would start with the simple things first.
The things I would suspect:
1. Distributor belt ( in can stay intact but lose teeth and therefore mis time)
2. Vacuum leak torn boot or intake coupler; a backfire can cause this
3. Crank sensor/o2 sensor DME issues
4. Failed fuel injector
5. Collapsed chain tensioner/slipped cam timing
6. Bent valve
if you have the means to do a compression check it will tell you if the basic mechanicals are ok. if you turn the motor with the distributor out you will have to re time to Z1 before you put it back in.
Anyway that's where I would start...
The things I would suspect:
1. Distributor belt ( in can stay intact but lose teeth and therefore mis time)
2. Vacuum leak torn boot or intake coupler; a backfire can cause this
3. Crank sensor/o2 sensor DME issues
4. Failed fuel injector
5. Collapsed chain tensioner/slipped cam timing
6. Bent valve
if you have the means to do a compression check it will tell you if the basic mechanicals are ok. if you turn the motor with the distributor out you will have to re time to Z1 before you put it back in.
Anyway that's where I would start...
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If you didn't get a CEL then it is provably in limp mode. These cars are typically pretty bulletproof mechanically. I would start with the simple things first.
The things I would suspect:
1. Distributor belt ( in can stay intact but lose teeth and therefore mis time)
2. Vacuum leak torn boot or intake coupler; a backfire can cause this
3. Crank sensor/o2 sensor DME issues
4. Failed fuel injector
5. Collapsed chain tensioner/slipped cam timing
6. Bent valve
if you have the means to do a compression check it will tell you if the basic mechanicals are ok. if you turn the motor with the distributor out you will have to re time to Z1 before you put it back in.
Anyway that's where I would start...
The things I would suspect:
1. Distributor belt ( in can stay intact but lose teeth and therefore mis time)
2. Vacuum leak torn boot or intake coupler; a backfire can cause this
3. Crank sensor/o2 sensor DME issues
4. Failed fuel injector
5. Collapsed chain tensioner/slipped cam timing
6. Bent valve
if you have the means to do a compression check it will tell you if the basic mechanicals are ok. if you turn the motor with the distributor out you will have to re time to Z1 before you put it back in.
Anyway that's where I would start...
Like I was saying, I had #5 in another car and it was causing similar issues. Basically, dealer said I could continue to drive it and once the tensioner is broken the timing chain weakens pretty quick so within 24 hours timing chain was broken and whole engine was garbage.
It was past warranty but dealer gave me a new engine on mad advice.
DO NOT PASS GO...go directly to a mechanic.
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Pretty certain this is coil/ignitor issue as I have the same on my 964. Dont do anything too drastic until you totally eliminate the coils/ignitors as they are an easy swap/fix
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So I am almost too embarrassed to post this. After removing the distributor to check the belt and poking around under the car, it turns out one of the spark plugs on the passenger side behind the large exhaust resonator had not been fully tightened by the PO. It had rattled itself loose over time causing the exhaust leak sound I was hearing, and causing the misfire. I had basically convinced myself that multiple head studs on the same cylinder were broken and that I was looking at $10000000 to fix it. I can now breathe a sigh of relief. That's the good news.
The bad news is that I have now attempted to retime the distributor to Z1 and the car is no longer starting. I realize that I could be off by 180º, so I have attempted timing the distributor caps to Z1 twice on the same revolution. One way sounded way worse than the other, so I have timed it to the one that sounded much smoother, without any pinging and it is still not starting. It catches on a couple of cylinders, but does not fully start. Does anybody have any recommendations?
The bad news is that I have now attempted to retime the distributor to Z1 and the car is no longer starting. I realize that I could be off by 180º, so I have attempted timing the distributor caps to Z1 twice on the same revolution. One way sounded way worse than the other, so I have timed it to the one that sounded much smoother, without any pinging and it is still not starting. It catches on a couple of cylinders, but does not fully start. Does anybody have any recommendations?
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..... I realize that I could be off by 180º, so I have attempted timing the distributor caps to Z1 twice on the same revolution. One way sounded way worse than the other, so I have timed it to the one that sounded much smoother, without any pinging and it is still not starting. It catches on a couple of cylinders, but does not fully start. Does anybody have any recommendations?
As you've had everything apart it also might be worth double/tripple checking all the plug leads are on the correct posts.