Dear Dave,
I normally do not enter these types of threads but believe me the owner of this RS6 was either;
Running it in
Was a new owner and was a tad nervous of opening it up or
Could not be bothered.
The RS6 is a 450 HP monster that will nail our little 964s at all levels except one and that is high speed cornering. The 964 will go around a corner better. The only problem with this advantage is that the RS6 will get to the corner much quicker than we can.
I have driven all the Audi RS series including the new RS6. I am set for a test drive of the new RS8 and for some reason I have been invited by BMW to drive the new M3 CSL (385 HP). I am looking forward to both drives.
I also own an Audi and I felt that somebody needed to stand up to say, hey these RS series Audi are very quick. All comes down to the power to weight ratio. A lot of 964 owners grossly under estimate the actual weight of their car. Using 1990 basic model weight figures is not very accurate. If you weigh your own 964 with you in the drivers seat I think you might be surprised at how heavy your 964 really is. Installed options are not considered in the weight figures found in books.
A nice story but I can assure you he was not trying for whatever reason. If you want to take on a serious Audi RS4 or 6 or 8 owner you need a 993TT or 996TT. A GT-2 leaves them for dust. Now that is one fun Porsche if not a little scary sometimes.
Ciao,
Adrian
911C4

PS: On the Ferrari front try the F-40. Now that is some machine, it is heavy but it goes like the wind. Even the Jaguar XKR. Cannot go around corners but in a straight line leaves the 964 for dead. I know I was overtaken by one on the autobahn and I was doing 260 kph.

 

yes, what is the 130mph figure for a standard 964? 23.5?

I think we can all agree that the RS6 will blow us away on the straights.

Wikkid, can you give some more details on how you beat the RS6? More details please.

 

Adrian, Good to see I have managed to draw you into a non technical discussion. Thanks for your input, I will book a test drive with Audi the next chance I get.
Christer, the 'incident' took place, or rather started on the M66 heading north out of Manchester. After the long hill up the road closes down from three lanes to two. With about 400yds to go it was here that RS Man tried to block me from getting in. Call it wrong gear, not trying or couldnt be bothered but I was at full speed and had decided I was not being pushed into the armco. From what you say he should have easily been able to out accelerate and prevent me from zipping in but this quite simply was not the case and he certainly looked like he was trying to me. From then on my beast comfortably kept in front, slowing occasionally for other cars and then accelerating back up to speed. Again, at each point we slowed from what you say he should have easily been able to catch up. There was one or two opportunities I moved into the left lane and the road was clear and he could have gone past but didnt or from what I saw rather couldnt. At the end of the motorway going into Rawtenstall it goes back into a built up area (30mph) and the race as far as i'm concerned was over and won.
Christer, I understand that the Audi is a quick car but my 964 is also capable of speeds in excess of 150mph. I will keep my eyes peeled for RS Man and question him as to why he 'let' me win but until then i'm afraid its 964 One- Audi RS Nil.
Cheers,
Dave
'90 C2.

 

I`m not going to agree with this. There are plenty 964s faster than this. They will also be faster in all corners - slow, medium and fast even in the wet.
BTW is it 1860kgs before options?

 

tony

that's fair enough (you are totally entitled to your own opnion), but the numbers don't lie:

Audi RS6 - 242bhp per ton
964 - around 180bhp per ton.

You will argue that trannie losses, 4 wheel drive blindness etc. all subtracts from this power to weight ratio. Therefore the 0-124mph in 17.6 secs statistic. The standard 964 when new would be nearer 23 secs. What is there to argue?

If we are talking RS's with 360bhp then that is a different story. Unless wikkid has oneof those.

 

"If we are talking RS's with 360bhp then that is a different story. Unless wikkid has oneof those."

Nope Christer,
Its just your basic 3.6L Carrera 2 Coupe.

 

Hi

Maybe he had just done a bank job and had a couple of ton of bullion in the boot, big boot in that car.

Regards
Rob

 

I think there may also be the factor of how far you are willing to put your life at risk on a bumpy public road, IE. how aggressive or committed you're willing to be.

If a driver has either no fear of injury, or has no fear about killing someone else, then I suspect it's fairly easy to beat almost anyone else in a 964 especially at quote; "full speed" - or in any 911 for that mater.

So perhaps the RS driver simply had more to loose. Perhaps you can gauge a better idea of how competitive these two cars are on a track.

BTW. I can say this now I'm getting a bit older and wiser



Ade.

 

Christer,

I am not denying that in a straight line race from a standing start the RS6 will pull away but that it would be much closer than you think. I know the road Wikkid describes and his story isn`t that fabulous (it isn`t that straigh or smooth or level)
As far as blowing us all away on the straights you wouldn`t need 360 hp, any chip+upgrade C2 should have enough.
At the track it would be a toss-up which would fail first on the RS6, tyres or brakes, - I`d give it 5 laps.

 

Dear Tony,
I sincerely believe you should get yourself down to your local Audi dealer and take one of these puppies for a drive. A standard C2 or C4 cannot keep up with a 320 HP 964 Turbo. I know I have been out with the Turbo brigade. The Turbo 3.6 leaves us for dead. All in standard trim.
If you do not have a local dealer that can help, find your local Audi club. There is a little reality here and our 1970s/80s technology 250 HP 964s have no chance against the modern twin turbo V8s out there. I should also point out that chipping of RS4s and RS6s is very easy and works much better than our efforts. These chipped puppies are blasting out 500-600 HP. Audi owners also lighten up their charges. Am I a fan of the Audi RS series. You betcha and my wife who has also test driven them wants one. The ABT RS4 certainly caught her attention.
Ciao,
Adrian
911C4

 

I'm with you on this. In the US there are a lot of cars available at (comparatively) very little money with a lot of bang for the buck (I'm thinking performance Mustangs etc.). I drive quickly most of the time but if one of those suckers wants to believe that he is king of the open road I ain't usually going to push it to where my car begins to put clear water between me and him.

That said, there was a time on an empty desert road just outside Las Vegas, New Mexico (and that ain't a mistake) when my old girl was allowed to pick up her skirts and run away from a shiny new S2000.............