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Old 04-10-2013 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by LM964
So true... not sure what the balance of C2 vs C4 availability is in the US, but here in the UK it's a lot easier to find a C2, and that may be where you end up with more choice on offer - get what has all the best work/extras/history etc..
Surely you mean its easier to find a C4 in the UK?
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Having seen a few C4's and looked at BB's website I'm starting be be less biased.
Old 04-10-2013 | 10:36 PM
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you better hit the buy it now for $20k before someone else does on this 1991 c2 with 101k miles:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1991-...item4ac35d2e4f
Old 04-11-2013 | 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jvmax
you better hit the buy it now for $20k before someone else does on this 1991 c2 with 101k miles:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1991-...item4ac35d2e4f
thats a nice looking car, and i would assume the condition is good based on the other cars in the background
Old 04-12-2013 | 10:30 AM
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another nice c2 on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-...item2c6dff8c0b
Old 04-12-2013 | 10:07 PM
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Thanks for the info guys, I look at all the recommendations and let you know in a few days which one I've looked at and where I go from here.
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Finally, Made my choice and in a few days I should have a C2 delivered to my office in the UK.
I won't see it for another week as I'm not going to be back in the UK until the 23 July. A bit of fettling in the UK then a drive home to Switzerland.

I'll post some photos next week sometime.
Old 07-15-2013 | 09:33 AM
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Congratulations... look forward to seeing it!
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Originally Posted by jack.pe
Congratulations... look forward to seeing it!
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Old 07-15-2013 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BrownGill
I love seeing all the C4 fans out there. I would have bought a C2 but found an amazing C4. I worry about all the stuff people tell you....more complicated to repair, heavier, blah blah blah. I feel justified by hearing all the C4 addicts out there. C4 has been great. My only comparison is a 997 2 WD. Not really apples to apples. It is one hell of a grippy dude though. I havent lost the back end yet but maybe I'm not trying hard enough.
Try turning off the PSM... I would have the tail of my 997 Carrera hanging out in over half of the corners I took (on purpose I might add). So for mechanical grip on less than perfect road surfaces there is no comparison. Both the 996 C4S and the 964 C4 drive perfectly neutral through the corners... And faster. The 964 C2 Targa tiptronic didn't slide that much, but def feels out of balance when driven the same way. All cars were stock, driven in the same conditions and on the same road.

Actually, I have never felt a more balanced platform than the 964 C4. Perhaps the 993 C4 is, but I never drove that one on the edge since it wasn't mine.

Any other 911 (and I've driven every model) on regular roads, stock, with N spec road tires has been less balanced.

All in my subjective opinion
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Originally Posted by STUARTQ
Finally, Made my choice and in a few days I should have a C2 delivered to my office in the UK.
I won't see it for another week as I'm not going to be back in the UK until the 23 July. A bit of fettling in the UK then a drive home to Switzerland.

I'll post some photos next week sometime.
Congratulations. Guards red?
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Originally Posted by STUARTQ
Finally, Made my choice and in a few days I should have a C2 delivered to my office in the UK.
I won't see it for another week as I'm not going to be back in the UK until the 23 July. A bit of fettling in the UK then a drive home to Switzerland.

I'll post some photos next week sometime.
Great news Stuart...and that drive home is going to be a great bonding session. Photo diary of the trip home please!
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One small problem, I'm in Switzerland, the cars in Essex and it looks like I'll have to get it transported back to my office in Stanmore.
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Originally Posted by STUARTQ
One small problem, I'm in Switzerland, the cars in Essex and it looks like I'll have to get it transported back to my office in Stanmore.
Just finding you the contact details for Alex who is known to a lot of Rennlisters, should be ideal. Congrats on the car and where is my you know what??

Edit : here you go;
http://www.lizardlogistics.com/
07880 552886
lizardlogistics@yahoo.co.uk
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I have put about 5000 kms on my C4 over the past 3 months. When I bought it, I was worried I'd regret getting the C4 (I jumped largely because the price was a lot lower than market value). I even did some research early on as to converting to a C2. 5000kms and a bunch of auto-xes later, and I'm converted. The car in no way feels like it's costing me performance because it's awd. It's a very seamless system, and it's staggering how quickly I can pile on the power coming out of a corner. As far as the 'dreaded understeer' - I have yet to face it. I 'thought' I was fighting it early on, but adjusted the pressures (36psi front, 44psi rear) and the car is now very, very well balance. (My other car is a Miata ). Drive one, find the nicest example you can find, and don't sweat whether you'd be faster in a C2.

As for the sensors: the major factor in the pricing of my C4 was that the PDAS and ABS were not operational. I had to replace the front control box, front wiring harness, and one accelerometer. Despite the horror stories on pricing, I was able to locate all three items for less than $350 total. $200 for the computer (here), $75 for the wiring harness (ebay) and $75 for two accelerometers (here).



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