Frunk mounted oil tank (ultimate design?)
#46
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Not in the frunk, but it not in it's usual spot either.
Nice to see how everything is routed.
Patrick text, " THIS SHOT SHOWS THE PETERSON OIL TANK - 16 QUART (4 GALLON) ALUMINUM (RACE) - DUAL BREATHER - 9 INCHES DIA. X 19 INCHES TALL - ALSO USE BILLET ALUM. BRACKETS. YOU CAN ALSO SEE OUT TRANSMISSION COOLER SYSTEM CONNECTED TO THE TOP OF THE TRANSMISSION AND THE COOLER ON THE LEFT UNDER THE BLACK DUCT WORK. NEXT TO THAT IS THE MOCAL 180 DEGREE OIL THERMOSTAT PART NUMBER OIL-12THER ALL PLUMBED WITH GOODRIDGE FITTINGS AND STAINLESS STEEL HOSES."
Patrick text, "THIS SHOT SHOWS THE PETERSON OIL TANK - 16 QUART (4 GALLON) ALUMINUM (RACE) - DUAL BREATHER - 9 INCHES DIA. X 19 INCHES TALL PART NUMBER OIL 08-0011-DB - ALSO USE BILLET ALUM. BRACKETS
BELOW THAT IS THE TILTON OIL / WATER PUMP - USED ON TRANSAXLE COOLER SYSTEMS - LIGHTWEIGHT - 3/8" NPT INLET / OUTLET - 12 VOLT - BUNA - INCLUDES BYPASS - 60 PSI WORKING PRESSURE - 1-2 GPM FLOW RATE PART NUMBER ELE TIL 40-524"
Nice to see how everything is routed.
Patrick text, " THIS SHOT SHOWS THE PETERSON OIL TANK - 16 QUART (4 GALLON) ALUMINUM (RACE) - DUAL BREATHER - 9 INCHES DIA. X 19 INCHES TALL - ALSO USE BILLET ALUM. BRACKETS. YOU CAN ALSO SEE OUT TRANSMISSION COOLER SYSTEM CONNECTED TO THE TOP OF THE TRANSMISSION AND THE COOLER ON THE LEFT UNDER THE BLACK DUCT WORK. NEXT TO THAT IS THE MOCAL 180 DEGREE OIL THERMOSTAT PART NUMBER OIL-12THER ALL PLUMBED WITH GOODRIDGE FITTINGS AND STAINLESS STEEL HOSES."
Patrick text, "THIS SHOT SHOWS THE PETERSON OIL TANK - 16 QUART (4 GALLON) ALUMINUM (RACE) - DUAL BREATHER - 9 INCHES DIA. X 19 INCHES TALL PART NUMBER OIL 08-0011-DB - ALSO USE BILLET ALUM. BRACKETS
BELOW THAT IS THE TILTON OIL / WATER PUMP - USED ON TRANSAXLE COOLER SYSTEMS - LIGHTWEIGHT - 3/8" NPT INLET / OUTLET - 12 VOLT - BUNA - INCLUDES BYPASS - 60 PSI WORKING PRESSURE - 1-2 GPM FLOW RATE PART NUMBER ELE TIL 40-524"
#47
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Move the tank. Move the oil filter housing too.
Clean up that engine bay.
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Clean up that engine bay.
Patrick Motorsports Exclusive
Remote Oil Filter & Console Mount Set - Includes modular mounting bracket, fittings & filter kit - Billet Aluminum, Black Finish - SETRAB / WIX RACING / SETRAB / PATRICK MS USA
+ Includes 2) PN: 22-M22AN12-SE - Adapter fitting - M22 to AN-12 Male
+ Includes 1) PN: 51060R - WIX Racing Filter
+ Please note: This part does not fit AN-16 fittings (Too Large)
+ Also Available with AN-08 & AN-10 fittings
Engine Oil Feed Inlet Case Union Adapter Set - (1965-1989) 911 / 914-6 to AN-16 Male - Billet Aluminum with Seal & Stud Mounting Hardware - PATRICK MS USA
+ For use with Engine Oil Filter Consoles.
Oil Breather Catch Tank Set for Engine Crankcase and Transmission Ventilation on Porsche Race Cars
+ Set Includes: Breather catch tank assembly with internal baffles, insulated mounting bracket, AN adapter fittings, original type cloth braided hose & hardware.
Oil Thermostat - OT2 | AN-16 Male (4x H Pattern) - 180 F (82 C) By-Pass Type Operation - MOCAL (A0T2-5HT) + Includes Mounting Support Bracket
+ AN-16 (21.50mm I.D.) is ideally matched to Porsche oil feed lines with the 30mm unions.
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#48
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Frunk cooler - 1976 Porsche 934
#49
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Crazy skills....
from a Pelican thread about building a Spec911 racer.
How to build a Funk tank:
Oil system and cooling is free in the Spec911 class so I'm building a remote oil tank in the smugglers
box.
I made a wooden dolly to form the aluminum top. Starting at the bottom then figure out how tall it needs to be to get to 10+ quarts
I went with .090 5051 T6 aluminum for the base and .090 3003 for the top half. T6 tempered 5051 is super strong but cannot be formed at all without cracking. The 3003 on the other hand was perfect for forming around the wooden buck.
I made the tops and bottom separate to assure that everything fits correctly. I have a -16 AN feed to the engine at the bottom, -12 AN inflow from the thermostat/coolers at the top, -8 AN drain plug, and vent line at the top wich will connect directly to the crank case vent.
Finished up the oil tank and measured the capacity. 8 quarts in the lower section and 11 quarts in the upper section... I think I went a little too big. Oh well, it will only keep the car cooler.
Love the interior oil lines.
from a Pelican thread about building a Spec911 racer.
How to build a Funk tank:
Oil system and cooling is free in the Spec911 class so I'm building a remote oil tank in the smugglers
box.
I made a wooden dolly to form the aluminum top. Starting at the bottom then figure out how tall it needs to be to get to 10+ quarts
I went with .090 5051 T6 aluminum for the base and .090 3003 for the top half. T6 tempered 5051 is super strong but cannot be formed at all without cracking. The 3003 on the other hand was perfect for forming around the wooden buck.
I made the tops and bottom separate to assure that everything fits correctly. I have a -16 AN feed to the engine at the bottom, -12 AN inflow from the thermostat/coolers at the top, -8 AN drain plug, and vent line at the top wich will connect directly to the crank case vent.
Finished up the oil tank and measured the capacity. 8 quarts in the lower section and 11 quarts in the upper section... I think I went a little too big. Oh well, it will only keep the car cooler.
Love the interior oil lines.
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Crazy skills....
from a Pelican thread about building a Spec911 racer.
from a Pelican thread about building a Spec911 racer.
#52
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From an article in the latest Panorama Magazine: BBI's Project Nasty.
(relocating the oil tank in even more important in an '85 Carrera, since it hangs out behind the rear wheel)
The article says, "the plumbing alone saved 50 lbs."
XRP plumbing throughout the car.
(relocating the oil tank in even more important in an '85 Carrera, since it hangs out behind the rear wheel)
The article says, "the plumbing alone saved 50 lbs."
XRP plumbing throughout the car.
#54
A lot of interesting ideas in this thread. It is my thought that for non-1972 or 964 these may have some benefit in overall balance. In the 1972 and the 964's the oil tank is already forward of the rear wheels and on the passenger side if the car. This seems to reduce the benefit as the weight is already within the wheelbase. The cost plus any additional weight of the front tank and additional oil volume, not to mention the fuel tank rearrangement seems to make this a minimal advantage modification. Lots of ways to reduce weight and improve balance before going down this path.
#55
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Just a fun exercise, and something I wanted to learn more about (so I created this random thread to see what's possible).
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i'll get some additional photos of project nasty's oil setup next week and post them.
#59
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Thanks! I know it's a marginal gains kinda thing, but I'd be interested in their thoughts on the mod too.
#60
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Keep in mind that car has a very high output long rod 3.6 motor in it and the car is tracked so the mod was done for a couple reasons: cool to do, system capacity, weight balance.
BTW, I believe the tank in that picture (silver) is not the oil tank, but the fuel surge tank.
Ill ask Joey about it when I see him next week, he's building the suspension for my 964 project. (its his car)
BTW, I believe the tank in that picture (silver) is not the oil tank, but the fuel surge tank.
Ill ask Joey about it when I see him next week, he's building the suspension for my 964 project. (its his car)