Shannon123

Ok...first time on this thread, but hope I don't get flamed too bad.

Saw this car and really getting the backdate bug.

I have read numerous threads here and Pelican and it seems like a couple years ago backdating a 964 had a very cold reception. More recently however, i see more and more people talking about it and warming up to it. (q few backdate threads going on now)

I pose the question.....(i fully understand the purists and the aftermarket will be as narrow as a nats crack etc), is the idea of making a 964 into something similar to the above referenced thread something that would hold its value (including costs to get it to such state) ? Of course I would do such conversion with the intent to keep it, but things change and would like to have a general opinion on how one would fare if/when the time comes to move on.

Thanks for any feedback.....good/bad/indifferent

Turbohead

Well, I think it will be a modified one off 964. Great fun for sure .....but I would not think of it as an appreciating asset.

That said I believe the 964 has not appreciated any where it's potential. I have had many of them and believe it is one the best Porsche platforms ever. There aren't many ,and are undervalued by people who have not had one. In coming years an unmolested original car should become very valuable .
just my opinion !
Elliot

Shannon123

Personally, I don't think any of these cars (outside of exceptionally low mileage) are investment worthy, however, I do think they are at least more less low or non depreciating assets.

I realize there is a severely narrowed market on a non-original car, but I've always liked unique over original.

Turbohead

Then do it .I have ,and got lots of pleasure in creating something unique.
Elliot

mozsan

do it.. and tell us how...!!!!!!!

GBX

I spoke with TRE on using a 964 for the conversion and they quoted around $100k. Supposed to be a lot of plumbing that has to be moved around and reconfigured since longhood front and rear bumpers expose a lot. They have me looking for a 3.2 now but would much rather use a 964 base. Thoughts?

Shannon123

Well, my first thought is that TRE is crazy ! The guy on the thread on the opening post suggested he ran into only a couple issues...1) oil lines had to be moved a bit 2) the front trunk needed to be reconfigured a bit. I'm sure there are a few other issues, but as mentioned, I'm still trying to make contact with the guy in UK to get futher details on his beautiful build.

GBX

Keep us posted. That is a great build. Would love to find out more

On another note, TRE has done a few of these already so I believe them, however, i think they were backdated to RS and RSR specs which may have been more difficult then just a longhood backdate.

What's your goal?

tbennett017

Yeah man.. no flames.. backdating is really popular as a topic here.

IMHO, the 90's era of the 964 hasn't become 'cool' yet so there is little connection to the aesthetic... that look of side skirts and smooth bumpers just hasn't revived itself yet. That may change someday but until then there aren't too many 'proprietary' people on here, unlike some of the purists in the older car forums.

bobaines

Talk to Keith or Aaron at Zuffenhaus in NC. They have done 964 backdates and have made oil lines specific for this application.

Shannon123

While I have no idea what the 911 Touring backdate costs (yet), his statement is "An aesthetic, practical interpretation is the principle objective, rather than a loyal recreation of a lightweight performance hybrid."

On the other hand, I have read some links on TRE's backdate and I think they go 100% top dollar no expense sparred purist route.......while great, I would rather I have something that at least I felt like I could drive as opposed to a museum piece.

Haves1979

I'd emailed the guy in the link of the original post a while back, and the reply was something like £25-30k for the conversion.

GBX

Agreed 100%.

Wonder where he sourced the front and rear bumpers and steel flares. Those aren't RS bumpers. Anyone know what they are? Just stock 70's

metalracer

These are easy mods for a competent/experienced shop and the styling has RSR and ST ques. So, in order to get there, the flares are re-worked 930s and bumpers are re-worked RSR.

Shannon123

Got this email back from the guy today....sounds like he has enough interest to actually begin a production line of them.

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