Track Day Tyres - road use
02-01-2013, 01:09 PM
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Track Day Tyres - road use
I'm curious about the track day tyre thing. I know that you can't run slicks on the road but how practical/sensible is it to run road legal track tyres for a daily driver.
I'm picking up some a new set of MM Cup 1s this evening and I need/want a set of Track tyres and have decided on Yoko Advan AD08. Having read a few threads on this forum people are using them as daily drivers despite their track bias. Good idea or Bad Idea?
Couple more quick question is I'm thinking of running 225/40/17 on the 7" fronts and 255/40/17 on the 9" rears. Are these the right sizes? My car is a 1990 C4 do I need spacers ?
Mikey
I'm picking up some a new set of MM Cup 1s this evening and I need/want a set of Track tyres and have decided on Yoko Advan AD08. Having read a few threads on this forum people are using them as daily drivers despite their track bias. Good idea or Bad Idea?
Couple more quick question is I'm thinking of running 225/40/17 on the 7" fronts and 255/40/17 on the 9" rears. Are these the right sizes? My car is a 1990 C4 do I need spacers ?
Mikey
02-01-2013, 01:29 PM
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Those would be the right sizes. You could run 265 rears...
What size wheels are they, 17" ? What offset do you currently have?
However if you already have two sets of wheels - why not have a full track tyre on one set?
02-01-2013, 01:33 PM
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02-01-2013, 01:41 PM
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Whilst Boxsey and P964FP have advised on sizes, there's a good reason to not run track day tyres on the road......you don't get enough heat into them to really make them work, and you pick up all kinda mess off the road (ask me how I know).
I use them only to get to/from the track.
I use them only to get to/from the track.
02-01-2013, 02:58 PM
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downsides are numerous , but how about higher price , faster wear , lack of grip when its cold or wet ie typical UK driving conditions , noise....and last but not least noise ( you will start to believe your wheel bearings are running out)
You can drive pretty quick on Bridgestone S02s or Michelin Pilot Sports ( not Cup) , they were good enough to exploit my 964RS's performance so should not limit your car
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02-01-2013, 03:28 PM
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Its not . There's no way you are going to exploit the grip potential of a track day tyre in everyday road use , the grip is the only potential upside ..
downsides are numerous , but how about higher price , faster wear , lack of grip when its cold or wet ie typical UK driving conditions , noise....and last but not least noise ( you will start to believe your wheel bearings are running out)
You can drive pretty quick on Bridgestone S02s or Michelin Pilot Sports ( not Cup) , they were good enough to exploit my 964RS's performance so should not limit your car.
downsides are numerous , but how about higher price , faster wear , lack of grip when its cold or wet ie typical UK driving conditions , noise....and last but not least noise ( you will start to believe your wheel bearings are running out)
You can drive pretty quick on Bridgestone S02s or Michelin Pilot Sports ( not Cup) , they were good enough to exploit my 964RS's performance so should not limit your car
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02-01-2013, 04:33 PM
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I didn't add anything about using full track day tyres on the road but agree with others that these are best on a spare set of wheels which are put on only to go to/from the track. By full track I mean for example Toyo R888, Michelin cups, Dunlop DZ03, Yokohama A048 and Kumho V70.
The Yokohama AD08 is a road tyre rather than a full track tyre. However, as mentioned by others it's a bit more 'sticky' than most road tyres so appears to be a good compromise between road and track.
The Yokohama AD08 is a road tyre rather than a full track tyre. However, as mentioned by others it's a bit more 'sticky' than most road tyres so appears to be a good compromise between road and track.
02-01-2013, 04:44 PM
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It's true I now have three sets of wheels. The Cup 2s I was going to sell to fund the already purchased 17" MM cup 1s. I just love the look of the cup 1s so much I was thinking of just sticking the Ad08s on there until SPA and then swap them over to the 996 10 spokes which I believe are the same size rims.
I was looking at Camskill for the tyres and the previously mentioned sizes were coming out at £614 for the set. Quite reasonable i thought, in comparison to the thousands recently spent elsewhere ( but more on that on my build thread tomorrow. heh heh). All points taken though so I'll probably sway over the tyres of the 10 spokes to the cup 1s and then run those at SPA.
I was looking at Camskill for the tyres and the previously mentioned sizes were coming out at £614 for the set. Quite reasonable i thought, in comparison to the thousands recently spent elsewhere ( but more on that on my build thread tomorrow. heh heh). All points taken though so I'll probably sway over the tyres of the 10 spokes to the cup 1s and then run those at SPA.
02-01-2013, 06:56 PM
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Do not be mistaken. AD08s are NOT full track tyres.
They are a hybrid summer/ track tyre.
They are perfect in the summer on road without the downfall of a track tyre on the road.
They are a hybrid summer/ track tyre.
They are perfect in the summer on road without the downfall of a track tyre on the road.
02-01-2013, 07:47 PM
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Hmm, this tyre thing is tough so. I will have two sets of wheels one more track biased as not taking two sets to the track so I think I'll take a minute to check out a few options.... OK AD08s it is. Track rubber is something for the future..
02-01-2013, 07:54 PM
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No love for the Bridgestone RE-11's in the UK?
I ran those for a couple seasons of Autocross and some DE, then went to AD08's (note that this was on my Cayman). Not much to choose from on those. In fact, I may well go back to the RE11's or the soon to be released RE11a. Both seemed to grip very well once they had some heat in them.
On the 964, I run Nitto NT01's, which are a true track tire. They are suitable to drive to/from the track, but they are not suitable for day to day driving, and let you know that they are on the car.
BTW, you boys that are able to run track days at Spa...I hate you. :-)
Cheers.
Brian
I ran those for a couple seasons of Autocross and some DE, then went to AD08's (note that this was on my Cayman). Not much to choose from on those. In fact, I may well go back to the RE11's or the soon to be released RE11a. Both seemed to grip very well once they had some heat in them.
On the 964, I run Nitto NT01's, which are a true track tire. They are suitable to drive to/from the track, but they are not suitable for day to day driving, and let you know that they are on the car.
BTW, you boys that are able to run track days at Spa...I hate you. :-)
Cheers.
Brian
02-01-2013, 09:10 PM
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The most important thing is not to run track day geometry.
I ran the inner shoulders off a new set of PS Cups in 2,500 miles --- before I started doing track days.
Now with road tyres on track I wear the fronts out twice as fast as the rears ... on road geometry.
But on the road (and in this weather) they are fab !
I'd seriously question how much extra you would get our of track tyres on the road ... but I would have a second set of wheels with sticky tyres and apply a compromise geometry set up ...
I ran the inner shoulders off a new set of PS Cups in 2,500 miles --- before I started doing track days.
Now with road tyres on track I wear the fronts out twice as fast as the rears ... on road geometry.
But on the road (and in this weather) they are fab !
I'd seriously question how much extra you would get our of track tyres on the road ... but I would have a second set of wheels with sticky tyres and apply a compromise geometry set up ...