alexjc4

metallic viper in my mind looks like this,



Ok, its a toy car but, then the only metallic viper green I've seen is my matchbox Carrera RS from when I was 5 - so the colour looks exactly like that - sort of boiled sweet look about it.

freedman

I used to have a Mk1 Golf in Metallic Viper Green, same as this

alexjc4

Ah, just read that there are three different viper green codes and two different metallics, one with copper coloured flake and one with silver flake, which might explain why every picture in this thread looks different.

deutschland-dobson

Colour chips arent the best way to compare TBH.

Its a long shot, but what about checking the stock lists at the larger specialists (such as Specialist Cars of Molton) and seeing if they have anything in Green on the forecourt for you to look at in person?

Chris

PaulW_964

Now that is a cool Porker Gary

Talat

That looks Signal Green to me - people often interchange viper/signal for whatever reason but afaik only signal green (paint code 22s) is the correct period colour for a 964. That could be a different car but I remember one on Thomas' site which had a picture of the paint sticker which stated signal green. As others have said, it's very difficult to photograph. My car looks a lot lighter in all my pictures.

PNine64

This is the only signal green 964 Targa I've seen (not to say there aren't more).

freedman

964 RS database lists them as the same colour

http://www.964rsdatabase.com/technical_info.html

altarchsa

Hawk's right.

Any time you get someone talking about color, the photographers (Hawk), grahic artists, and architects (me) will start preaching about lighting (in either photos or real world conditions).

All these greens remind me of when I was just getting started in architecture. My boss picked a "Dollar bill" green for a carpet in a board room in a bank I designed. When we presented the colors to the bank's Board, my boss put the carpet out in front of them on their Board Room table and, because of their lighting, it turned a noxious, electric blue green that almost vibrated off the table. A funny exchange followed with my boss first tossing the carpet on the floor and then kicking it farther and farther into the shadow from the table to try try minimize the bad lighting effect. The Chairman finally said, "Ed, why don't you just kick that sample completely under the table and we'll move on to something else."

Even if you don't consider all the variations from the kind of film used or digital settings of the camera, and the WIDE, WIDE range of variations from your monitor (have you ever heard about the gyrations graphic artists go through using sophisticated devices to synchronize their monitors to color match actaul printed material?), the photos above should only be used to get a general idea which colors interest you. Sounds like you[ve already done that from your initial post.

Also, you can disregard all the interior photos unless you plan to only look at your car in your garage recreate the exact kind of lighting as in all those photos. Another issue to consider, paint fades with age and other effects such as exposure to various weather conditions and sun. Etc., etc.

Hawk's right (but they're chips Hawk, not swatches, as deutschland-dobson ponted out). You need to look at chips in person to get close to the color in the actual can of paint you'll buy. You can:

1. secure original chips from Porsche (pretty hard to do I'm sure);

2. have a paint supplier paint sample chips from formulas;

3. eye-match the color of a car that you like (in person) to a color chip on a color fan, and then have chips made from that (not such a good technique, as the effort to match colors takes some talent/training I've found through my experience); or

4. use one of the modern, sophisticated color analysis/matching devices on the car you like and have the sample chips made to match.

Whatever method you use to get close, as a final step you should have samples made on large curved pieces of metal and compare them to a car you like, with known paint authenticity, if that's important to you.

Having painted more than a few cars in my life myself, I would spend the time and make the effort to get it right if I were going to spend the $$$$$ to change colors and wanted something as dramatic as one of these greens (they're all gorgeous).

I resprayed my first Porsche, a Fly Yellow */- '78 924 almost 30 years ago and used a small chip color fan to match against the actual car. I got close, but it wasn't exact. I didn't get big samples first, but then it wasn't as special as my 964 either. You have to go through the entire process to get the right color.

Porsche964FP

Thank you for all the feedback guys!

I'm gonna stick with black in the end. Going green would be too expensive and I don't think I could live with the colour.

There's just something about black that does it for me. Having said that... As Alex pointed out our cars came in black without any lacquer!

So I've settled with Aston Martin Onyx Black or Jet Black for the moment. It's a pearlescent colour with gold and silver fleck plus three coats of lacquer should repel those damn micro swirls!


Well I was until I realised how much more expensive it was! And one does have to think about residual value!


WOW!




Alex you are a walking, talking Porsche database!

Too true, lighting, grading etc change everything. And each camera has it's own 'perception' of colour!

hawk911

I was at a Griot's Garage event one time and there was a Porsche there that had been repainted with 3 coats of paint, and 5--- yes 5 coats of clear!!!

and fine- paint chips it is.

Talat

Or you could do what I considered doing a while back which was black car but bumpers/side skirts and wing mirrors in green.

Porsche964FP

Ha - for a track car yup! I like black it's conspicuous! Almost too, especially at night - so I've got a little module that plugs in between the third brake light and the wiring to give this effect!

ChaseN

Signal Green vinyl wrap! Then you can change the color whenever you want for (relatively) little cost, all while protecting the paint underneath.

Jay Wellwood

Reviving an older thread...

I've looked at the 'greens' and have looked at on-line paint sources for countless hours trying to determine the proper paint code for the metallic viper green paints.

Neither Paint Scratch or Paint Ref recognize the metallic versions - and only until the 964RS database post did I find a reference that appears to equate Signal and Viper Green as being the same color.

Question - regarding the Viper Green Metallic colors - my understanding is that one is more 'bronze' while the other is more 'silver'. Anyone have a good image depicting these on cars and then the reference paint code information would be great.

TIA-