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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 05:40 PM
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I have a 1/2 in difference in ride height between left and right in the rear and a 1/4 in difference in the front. The rear difference is noticeable even without measuring when looking at the car from the back.

This is a stock C2.

What is causing this? Bad springs? The car has 80K and this may well be the original springs/shocks. I am somewhat new to the 964 suspension.

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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 09:50 PM
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Which side in the rear is higher? Has the car ever been corner balanced? If you are higher on the left side in back it may be to account for driver weight.
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Could be balance, could be if it is original the gas has leaked out of some of the struts.
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 11:47 PM
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Great point - did not think driver's weight would make that much difference, but it does. Driver's side is higher and measuring with a person in the seat, all is well again.

Thank you!

Btw, what is the the average life of springs and shocks for normal street use, i.e no track time?
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From what I can tell in the posts 80k might be pushing it w/ stock shocks.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by cjoenck
Great point - did not think driver's weight would make that much difference, but it does. Driver's side is higher and measuring with a person in the seat, all is well again.

Thank you!

Btw, what is the the average life of springs and shocks for normal street use, i.e no track time?
depends but it probably leaked out sitting around rather than been driven.

80K is only like 4k a year.

I would suspect a normal service life of a shock or strut is 60K
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what are the early signs that they have gone south?
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 01:40 AM
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1/4 in drop. The gas can leak without any oil leaks, the only other way to know for sure is take them out and see if you can compress the shock or strut with the spring off.
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Originally Posted by Makmov
1/4 in drop. The gas can leak without any oil leaks, the only other way to know for sure is take them out and see if you can compress the shock or strut with the spring off.
I've been curious about this, so I'm wondering if you can answer. Aren't the 964 struts/shocks just dampers? If so, then wouldn't they carry very little load while the car is sitting parked? Or is there a modest spring within the damper, which helps support static weight of the car? I must confess ignorance on the internals of the dampers, but that's why I'm asking. Any insight into this? Thanks.
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Gas charged unit would carry a very tiny bit of the load, that is why when the gas escapes the car drops about a 1/4, otherwise there is nothing else inside, like a spring or anything like that: just oil a shaft and some valves inside.

Otherwise, no, the only thing holding the car up is the springs.
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Originally Posted by Makmov
Gas charged unit would carry a very tiny bit of the load, that is why when the gas escapes the car drops about a 1/4, otherwise there is nothing else inside, like a spring or anything like that: just oil a shaft and some valves inside.

Otherwise, no, the only thing holding the car up is the springs.
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so the effect is a slightly lower effective spring rate? the net result is lower ride and increased roll/squat etc?

and the dampening is maintained until the valving goes south? does it go south and leave you with a bounce ride?

in any case i'm convinced mine are near or past their time and have purchased the HR/Bilstein combo. trying to assemble the bits and pieces to install when the weather changes.
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It is usually the oil leaks out and then you don't have any dampening or start to get a bounce.
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A bit different to the above - have you checked the condition of your antiroll bar bushes? Is the antiroll bar moving freely?
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Originally Posted by Makmov
1/4 in drop. The gas can leak without any oil leaks, the ....only other way to know for sure is take them out and see if you can compress the shock or strut with the spring off.
Impact harshness is the first sign that a shock is going bad. You will feel that long before the shock feels loose in a hand test.
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