beamishnz

It is a mess ... but I'm keen to try and unravel it. The car is in very nice condition. If I can get this sorted it can be back on the road and enjoyed. If not it is destined for parts which would be a real shame.

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beamishnz

My thinking is that if I can clarify the correct VIN I can then start ascertaining what the status is of that VIN .... the whole thing is very strange. Perhaps it is a stolen ex Japan car that arrived and then tried to morph into a written off C4 ... If I can identify the 'Correct' VIN then I can start peeling the layers back. It will be very difficult to unravel without that.

beamishnz

Always interested in a hypothesis

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cobalt

I am curious did they offer a C2 in 89 in New Zealand? I am so used to 89's being all C4's here in the US.

I found no correlation between the body numbers and the vin numbers. So long as the body numbers match all panels that is all I bothered considering. Does Porsche AG offer a CofA like PCNA does here in the states?

If it were a US spec car an 89 would have vin number stickers on most all panels and parts.

John McM

Anthony, it sounds like this car has an identity disorder. Its VIN doesn't match the configuration i.e. It's VIN is '89 C4 but it's a C2. To add to the mystery its build number doesn't appear to match the VIN either. I haven't seen the car. Maybe its VIN has been taken off another car and welded in, but it's the original body? Maybe the original car was written off with an order that it couldn't ever be re-registered?

To get this sorted, the OP will have to find the true VIN associated with the build number, then prove that body had clear title. If he can't then the car can't be registered for road use.

FYI New Zealand only had 25 NZ new 964s sold, including Turbo 3.6s, which means that the other 275 odd cars are imports from the U.K., Japan and Singapore, plus a few Brunei cars. This importation pattern makes it difficult to get history on many of the cars. I suspect this car is an import by someone trying to make something out of a resurrected wreck but got caught out by the local authorities.

BTW Do you know if there are any more stamped build numbers on the body apart from the rear parcel shelf and the doors? I asked a local expert and he didn't know.

John McM

Paul, how can the VIN and engine numbers match if it's a C2 but an '89 model?

Btw I've just been working on my exhaust. I noted that the primary muffler has the month and year of that parts manufacture. There are similar marks on other engine parts. It might make dating the engine easier.

cobalt

Interesting I am not seeing the last two posts when I pull them up.

Could this car have been converted to a C2? It is not that difficult to do if you have the tranny and weld in the Shift box. In the US a CofA will list the tranny number as well.

John,

I only recall seeing the numbers stamped on both doors and the rear shelf. A PITA to get to to prove a point. Although they also wrote the number in marker or some hand written method along the back of the body shell just underneath the center tail light lens.

JohnK964

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John,

I only recall seeing the numbers stamped on both doors and the rear shelf. A PITA to get to to prove a point. Although they also wrote the number in marker or some hand written method along the back of the body shell just underneath the center tail light lens.[/QUOTE]

On Talia MY 91 born November 1990 the same number on the doors is also on front deck lid by right hand side near frunk light also on rear deck lid
that nun is 53394 and last if vin are 10959 so no correlation there

John McM

John, are those numbers stamped?

JohnK964

yes sir they are stamped into the metal. Haven't looked at the parcel shelf my car I could go out to garage and take pictures if you want

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