Cost effect 964 race exhaust?
10-08-2010, 08:27 PM
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Cost effect 964 race exhaust?
Hey everyone, I've tried to do a few searches about exhausts and I thought I had everything sorted out. I was going to buy this exhaust as it was the most cost effective full exhaust system I could find: http://www.fvd.de/us/en/Porsche-0/96...s)-2-exit.html
But... bad news is that FVD doesn't manufacture this anymore. I was wondering if anyone else knew of any exhaust systems that were relatively free flowing (this is going on a 3.8 with big valves). That would be relatively cost effective. I have no aspirations of keeping the heating system as I live in California and cold days are not all that common. My primary concerns are lightness and power. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated!
But... bad news is that FVD doesn't manufacture this anymore. I was wondering if anyone else knew of any exhaust systems that were relatively free flowing (this is going on a 3.8 with big valves). That would be relatively cost effective. I have no aspirations of keeping the heating system as I live in California and cold days are not all that common. My primary concerns are lightness and power. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated!
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Hey everyone, I've tried to do a few searches about exhausts and I thought I had everything sorted out. I was going to buy this exhaust as it was the most cost effective full exhaust system I could find: http://www.fvd.de/us/en/Porsche-0/96...s)-2-exit.html
But... bad news is that FVD doesn't manufacture this anymore. I was wondering if anyone else knew of any exhaust systems that were relatively free flowing (this is going on a 3.8 with big valves). That would be relatively cost effective. I have no aspirations of keeping the heating system as I live in California and cold days are not all that common. My primary concerns are lightness and power. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated!
But... bad news is that FVD doesn't manufacture this anymore. I was wondering if anyone else knew of any exhaust systems that were relatively free flowing (this is going on a 3.8 with big valves). That would be relatively cost effective. I have no aspirations of keeping the heating system as I live in California and cold days are not all that common. My primary concerns are lightness and power. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated!
10-08-2010, 10:21 PM
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In my opinion (not a very popular one probably) the most cost effective solution is a used B&B 1.75" header system with a B&B muffler. Say what you will about old school B&B mufflers that have had some welds crack.. I have yet to find a complete solution for the same money. I have bought several setups in this configuration for around $1200. Again, it is used equipment and you may have to shop for several weeks to find it, but I'm a pretty big fan.
10-08-2010, 10:54 PM
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The used b&b is the "cheap" setup, they made a lot if them but you'll have to keep an eye out. Also the best setup you can sometimes find is a set of S Car Go headders/rsr setup, they will make more power but may be harder to find...
10-08-2010, 11:43 PM
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Hey everyone, I've tried to do a few searches about exhausts and I thought I had everything sorted out. I was going to buy this exhaust as it was the most cost effective full exhaust system I could find: http://www.fvd.de/us/en/Porsche-0/96...s)-2-exit.html
But... bad news is that FVD doesn't manufacture this anymore. I was wondering if anyone else knew of any exhaust systems that were relatively free flowing (this is going on a 3.8 with big valves). That would be relatively cost effective. I have no aspirations of keeping the heating system as I live in California and cold days are not all that common. My primary concerns are lightness and power. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated!
But... bad news is that FVD doesn't manufacture this anymore. I was wondering if anyone else knew of any exhaust systems that were relatively free flowing (this is going on a 3.8 with big valves). That would be relatively cost effective. I have no aspirations of keeping the heating system as I live in California and cold days are not all that common. My primary concerns are lightness and power. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated!
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10-09-2010, 12:54 AM
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Here's a link if you want to hear what it sounds like:
https://rennlist.com/forums/911-foru...nds-autox.html
It's funny how opinions are like noses... I'm sure there are pleanty of reasons to like the fabspeed parts, but they really leave a bad taste in my mouth.
As far as accusing B&B of being cheap.... I thought that was the whole point of the thread.
If I was spending real money I would look into a euro style (S Car go), a stepped design, or the piece made by RarelyL8. That's not what the OP asked.
10-09-2010, 02:08 AM
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What's wrong with working with an experienced professional who has worked with all the systems, and can best suit the exhaust to the engine?
That said, I've presently got a GHL/stock cat/stock muffler setup on my 3.8, and can't tell any difference from the GHL/bypass/Fabspeed mufflers. Data and lap time verified.
That said, I've presently got a GHL/stock cat/stock muffler setup on my 3.8, and can't tell any difference from the GHL/bypass/Fabspeed mufflers. Data and lap time verified.
10-09-2010, 03:23 AM
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10-09-2010, 08:55 AM
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Here's a link if you want to hear what it sounds like:
https://rennlist.com/forums/911-foru...nds-autox.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/911-foru...nds-autox.html
BTW, I went to KU and loved visiting KC, there are some great roads all around Lawrence. Free State Brewery!
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3.6 conversion. 964 motorsports crank, 12:1 JE pistons, pauter long rods, GT3 oil pump, 3.8 RSR heads and cams, ITB injection w/ autronic management. 1.75" B&B headers with heat and B&B 2 in 2 out.
whew, that was a mouthful. The car is a frankenstein. Should be stock gearing for an 89.
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10-09-2010, 02:16 PM
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Say what you will about the B&B mufflers, but I NEVER had as many compliments on the sound of my car before the B&B. The only thing that came close was a gutted flowmaster, but it was way too loud, and required constant attention.
Here's a link if you want to hear what it sounds like:
https://rennlist.com/forums/911-foru...nds-autox.html
It's funny how opinions are like noses... I'm sure there are pleanty of reasons to like the fabspeed parts, but they really leave a bad taste in my mouth.
As far as accusing B&B of being cheap.... I thought that was the whole point of the thread.
If I was spending real money I would look into a euro style (S Car go), a stepped design, or the piece made by RarelyL8. That's not what the OP asked.
Here's a link if you want to hear what it sounds like:
https://rennlist.com/forums/911-foru...nds-autox.html
It's funny how opinions are like noses... I'm sure there are pleanty of reasons to like the fabspeed parts, but they really leave a bad taste in my mouth.
As far as accusing B&B of being cheap.... I thought that was the whole point of the thread.
If I was spending real money I would look into a euro style (S Car go), a stepped design, or the piece made by RarelyL8. That's not what the OP asked.
1) the falkl apart, I went through at least 5 of their mufflers before giving up. I replaced the last B&B ~10 yrs ago and still have the replacement muffler on the car.
2) to get the sound they have a full size driver side outlet but a dime sized passenger side outlet(hidden from casual observation of course). I bought a dual exhaust not a faux dual exhaust. 911 respond well to a lack of back pressure
Fabspeed sound great and have a better design too. Are they as good as a custom or S-Car-go header, probably not, but value for the money, yep
If you want heat the Fabspeed can be configured for it. Rarely's looks interesting and probably works well but I would like to see longer primaries, the stepped designs I've seen have been sized more for 3 and 3.2 liters, haven' t seen one sized for 3.6-4.0 yet
10-22-2010, 01:58 AM
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Looks like I completely missed out on this discussion. I need to get that e-mail notification working! In any case, I wasn't too concerned about sound. I have a 3" single pipe exhaust on my race car with a single muffler and I never thought it was too loud on the street. The B&B option sounds like it would be up my alley but I'd hate to be shopping around for weeks on end just to find a used exhaust for 1200 or so. I found this system online which seems to be the cheapest thing I've run across and it looks like fairly good quality: http://www.maxspeed-motorsports.com/...ngexhaust.html Has anyone else used the NHP exhaust system?
10-22-2010, 10:36 PM
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Cost effective is a primary concern, that kit is $2,495. The kit I mentioned above is significantly cheaper and is almost the same setup minus the ability to go to straight pipes instead of the muffler (I doubt many people do this anyway).