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Old 08-12-2010 | 01:24 PM
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I just sold my 993 and know of a 1992 Americas Roadster for sale

55,000 Miles
5 speed
Guards Red
Black Interior
Paint is a 10
Interior is a strong 8
Has a Turbo Tail (which I would remove)
3.6 3 piece turbo wheels
aluminum shifter and ebrake
B&B Headers and Exhaust (dual exhaust)
Chip
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mechanics on the car are all up to date

If the PPI is good what is a fair price for the car? I know these cars are rare, but how much of a premium do they really command? I am pretty much going to make an offer on the car as the owner asked me what I would pay. There is one on eBay right now with 60K, white, 3.6 wheels and Tiptronic (which I do not prefer) This car (on eBay) has a Buy it Now of around $36,000. It is from a dealer (Willhoit I believe). I know the 993 market, but am at a loss for the Roadsters. TIA for the help.

Mike
Old 08-12-2010 | 01:57 PM
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Far too few have sold recently to put a market value on them. There was a thread not too long ago about how desirable the America Roadster really is. It is a turbo-body convertable with the standard 3.6 liter 964 engine. The turbo body and the convertable add a lot of weight, making it unsuitable for track use. The light-weight version (RSA) is more common than the AR, but is in high demand and has gone from ~$10K cheaper than a C2 when new to ~$10K more expensive than a C2 on the used car market now. The AR was the high-priced version of the C2, and I doubt it has done as well as the RSA on the used market.

Given so few AR sales, the range for an excellent example is wide: perhaps low 30s to upper 40s. This car has mods, and that could affect its value as a collectable. You will set the market for some time to come if you purchase the car. Good luck.
Old 08-12-2010 | 02:22 PM
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Far too few have sold recently to put a market value on them. There was a thread not too long ago about how desirable the America Roadster really is. It is a turbo-body convertable with the standard 3.6 liter 964 engine. The turbo body and the convertable add a lot of weight, making it unsuitable for track use. The light-weight version (RSA) is more common than the AR, but is in high demand and has gone from ~$10K cheaper than a C2 when new to ~$10K more expensive than a C2 on the used car market now. The AR was the high-priced version of the C2, and I doubt it has done as well as the RSA on the used market.

Given so few AR sales, the range for an excellent example is wide: perhaps low 30s to upper 40s. This car has mods, and that could affect its value as a collectable. You will set the market for some time to come if you purchase the car. Good luck.
I appreciate the response. Tracking the car will not happen so that does not factor in to my decision. I agree with you on the mods done to the car theory. I feel they detract from the price as original is always better. The mods done are reversible (at a cost) so I am not overly concerned with that. I was hoping to get the car for 29K-33K. I just don't believe these cars carry the "highly desirable" prices. Of course I am the guy trying to buy the car so I probably believe this stronger than others. I do feel they are worth more than a C2 cab, but how much is what I am trying to pinpoint. Thanks again for your answer. I always want to get educated as much as possible before laying out the $$$$$$$.

Mike
Old 08-13-2010 | 02:06 AM
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They only made 250! Rarity like that is desirable, especially on a global level. I have been following ARs for many years, and they were selling in the $45-55K range with 20-30K miles until 2009...

In this market, with 55K on the odometer and a tip (less desireable) transmission - I'd think $30-40K is fair market value. I'd contact them directly and make an offer. Can't hurt!

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Old 08-13-2010 | 02:34 AM
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theres also one in vancouver. Hes on here as well. I think hes selling for 32K CDN. 100 000km. dont know if that helps anything
Old 08-13-2010 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Arena993
I just sold my 993 and know of a 1992 Americas Roadster for sale

55,000 Miles
5 speed
Guards Red
Black Interior
Paint is a 10
Interior is a strong 8
Has a Turbo Tail (which I would remove)
3.6 3 piece turbo wheels
aluminum shifter and ebrake
B&B Headers and Exhaust (dual exhaust)
Chip
Upgraded Airmass Meter
mechanics on the car are all up to date

If the PPI is good what is a fair price for the car? I know these cars are rare, but how much of a premium do they really command? I am pretty much going to make an offer on the car as the owner asked me what I would pay. There is one on eBay right now with 60K, white, 3.6 wheels and Tiptronic (which I do not prefer) This car (on eBay) has a Buy it Now of around $36,000. It is from a dealer (Willhoit I believe). I know the 993 market, but am at a loss for the Roadsters. TIA for the help.

Mike

Would be great help if you let me know more about this car - if you buy or not - m491@turbo-look.com

Lots of informations about the America Roadster here : Turbo-Look Register

Best from Germany

Norbert
Old 08-13-2010 | 10:41 AM
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They have all the turbo suspension, brakes, chassis, ets; but no turbo. Nothing like a widebody look with the three piece turbo wheels.

I think they should be priced comparable to a same year turbo. I think 30 to 40 is a fair price. I'm always leary of the performance mods though.

I owned a 92 for a while, very sorry I sold it. I think they are well worth the premium. Drive a regular C2 and then the America Roadster and you will be sold. I think the turbo suspension set up is much better than the RSA setup - my 02.

happy hunting . . .
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Originally Posted by BHMav8r
I think the turbo suspension set up is much better than the RSA setup - my 02. .
Interesting statement, especially since they share the same M030 suspension. Could you elaborate?
Old 08-13-2010 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Arena993
I just sold my 993 and know of a 1992 Americas Roadster for sale

55,000 Miles
5 speed
Guards Red
Black Interior
Paint is a 10
Interior is a strong 8
Has a Turbo Tail (which I would remove)
3.6 3 piece turbo wheels
aluminum shifter and ebrake
B&B Headers and Exhaust (dual exhaust)
Chip
Upgraded Airmass Meter
mechanics on the car are all up to date

If the PPI is good what is a fair price for the car? I know these cars are rare, but how much of a premium do they really command? I am pretty much going to make an offer on the car as the owner asked me what I would pay. There is one on eBay right now with 60K, white, 3.6 wheels and Tiptronic (which I do not prefer) This car (on eBay) has a Buy it Now of around $36,000. It is from a dealer (Willhoit I believe). I know the 993 market, but am at a loss for the Roadsters. TIA for the help.

Mike
You could turn it into a WB 964 Speedster. Just sayin' ;-)
Old 08-13-2010 | 02:02 PM
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http://www.daveolimpiautomobiles.com...ster/main.html

IMHO. 40k range. Probably less because of molestation and sub par interior.
Old 08-13-2010 | 02:07 PM
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I paid 38$ for mine 2 years ago. Stick, Red/tan. Upgraged stero and amp BBS wheels, 47,000 miles.

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Old 08-13-2010 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by NinetyOneC2
You could turn it into a WB 964 Speedster. Just sayin' ;-)
could do but really expensive....then neither a roadster or a speedster.

the white roadster (with funny exhaust outlet/unusual brand delete) on e-bay has been listed off & on for mos & mos & mos....not sure if its sketchy or not, but do believe they will likely take less than 30k (3rd hand info from guy who was after my car for a bit.

turbo look cabs seem to command a far greater premium in europe & japan than they do in n.amer.
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Originally Posted by RSA_27149
Interesting statement, especially since they share the same M030 suspension. Could you elaborate?
Do they have the same suspension? I thought the RS just had slightly stiffer springs and shocks, different sway bars - not the turbo suspension/brakes . . .

I'll look it up and "elaborate" . . . Thanks for the homework assignment.
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Originally Posted by BHMav8r
Do they have the same suspension? I thought the RS just had slightly stiffer springs and shocks, different sway bars - not the turbo suspension/brakes . . .

I'll look it up and "elaborate" . . . Thanks for the homework assignment.
You're welcome. However, I'll save you the search. The RSA and Turbo share the same suspension. I just want to set the facts straight. Being lighter relative to the turbo, along with a narrow body punching a smaller hole, the RSA handles better, imo. That's why I was confused by your prior statement.

Anyway, back to OP's topic...
Old 08-13-2010 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by NinetyOneC2
You could turn it into a WB 964 Speedster. Just sayin' ;-)
Mike, listen to this wise man.


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