Tonyq

I am looking at purchasing my first 964. I am new to this model porsche. I have found a 1994 cab. The seller told me the car is an anniversary model. The car has 62K miles, TIP, white/black. What makes the car an anniversary model and what is the right price for such a car?

Computamedic

As far as I'm aware, the only 30th Anniversary cars which were produced were wide bodied Coupes - built in 1993 - of which only 911 were produced for RoW markets. They were offered in only 3 colours (Viola, Polar Silver and Amethyst) and each had a numbered plaque on the rear shelf. Also called Jubilee models.

There were a number of wide bodied coupes produced in 1994 for US distribution but they had no numbered plaque on the rear shelf.

There were NO Anniversary cabriolets produced for either RoW or US markets.

Dave

parsecnc4

Doesn't the widebody '92 cabriolet "America Roadster" offered in the USA count as an Anniversary model? If I recall, it is a 40th Anniversary model of some sort, but not from 1994 or a 30th Anniversary model.

Computamedic

The America Roadster was merely a US version of the RoW Turbo-bodied cabriolet - all produced in 1992 only. It wasn't produced as any sort of "special" version, nor was it an Anniversary edition in the sense of the Jubilee models which had a numbered plaque giving the sequence number out of the 911 limited edition.

The OP mentioned that the cab in question was a '94 model so would be unlikley to be a WTL version anyway.

1993 - the year the Jubilees were produced was the 30th Anniversary of the first 911, hence the 911 cars of the limited edition. I have no idea what events took place in 1952 for a 40th Anniversary in 1992.

Regards

Dave

BHMav8r

Not all America Roadsters were produced in 1992 - some were produces in 1993. I never heard them refered to as "anniversry".

Computamedic

According to the information published in Adrian Streather's book (including the updated Appendix A) only 250 America Roadsters were produced - all in 1992. It's highly likely that some may not have been sold and/or registered until 1993 but I would read into that information that they were all "N" (1992) model year cars. Full production numbers are shown here.

Regards

Dave

Kahdmus

Tony, away from anoraks, and pedantics aside, it appears that the seller is confused either deliberately or mistakenly. Either way, if the car is what you want cosmetically, passes a PPI and the price is not inflated above a regular C2 Cab w/tip then thats all I would worry about. Alternately you could get the VIN and check the model online or call Porsche.

Best of luck and look forward to hearing more.

Cheers,

--Howard

BHMav8r

Heres a 93 for sale.... http://classiccars.com/53349.car
Heres another one.... http://www.cannillomotorsports.com/p...ca/america.htm "P" 1993 year code
Here's another one.... http://www.carsearch.com/Porsche/1864.html

I'm not trying to be a SA - I used to own one (its the pics in Adrians book) and did a lot of research at the time. The third add states " The America Roadster was built to commemerate the 40th Anniversary of the 1952 porsche 356 America Roadster. The build total was 250 cars, with 164 built as 1992 models, and only 86 as 1993 models" -which is roughly what I remember.

I would gladly pay the premium for the car in the original post if it is indeed an America Roadster. It should have the "Roadster" emblem on the rear deck lid if it is. Perhaps the seller has this 40th aniversary confused.

Computamedic

Thanks for the informative update. I guess we can't always assume that Adrian's data is correct!! It's also intesting that Adrian refers to the cars as American Roadster - which I also know is incorrect.

I will update the production numbers accordingly.

Regards

Dave

TL-Register

Hi Dave ! Sorry to say that - but like Adrian Str. , you are truly wrong !

The ROW C2 Turbo-Look CAB and the America Roadster where official Models in Modelyear 1992 and 1993 !

The 964 America Roadster was offered in USA as a Anniversary Model " 40 Years America Roadster ( 356 )" Till today i found no prove for the often told number of peaces : 250. ??? I am rally not sure if it is right ??? TURBO-LOOK Register contains around 50 in the moment and a lots of with PS46xxxx VIN.

And sorry again - not all America Roadster wear a badge on their back - You can see ROADSTER - AMERICA ROADSTER - or just NOTHING

wide Regards

Norbert

Computamedic

Norbert,

I was waiting for you to raise your head!!! I acknowledged in the above message that it seemed Adrian's information was wrong. The mention of 164 in 1992 and 84 in 1993 seems credible but as for absolute proof.....

I have updated my production figures pdf on the above link to reflect these numbers ... until there is another challenge!!!

Regards

Dave

TL-Register

Problem with the number of peaces is that everyone thinks that a so often repeated Term must be the truth. Till today no one could tell me where the defined numbers came from. Like the salesfigur for the M 491 84-89 - on a letter from PNA - Paper is nothing more than an internetfake

When i asked Garrett from the C4 Widebody Register - he wrote there are 238 - where do the numbers came from, he told me : a friend of a friend who worked for Porsche told ...

And now you read everywhere : there are 238 - that can´t be the right way repeating possible mistakes again and again till everyone takes them as facts.

Adrian did a great job but he missed the chance to create a reference! So many many mistakes in his companion, it is a shame ...

wide Regards

Norbert

Damian in NJ

Funny enough, I've seen one of these with 'roadster' on the car parked at the track where I walk-I thought he put this on himself.

Trader220

Whats the seller asking for the car in the original post. If he wants a premium because he says its a special model he's either uninformed or a liar.

Tonyq

The seller is asking $24950.00... I will try to post some pictures of the car tomorrow.