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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 12:06 AM
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Just kinda curious.... Parked next to an 86 911 that I could only assume was Guards Red and his looked a totally different shade of red than mine


Would '86 guards red be a different shade than '91 guards red???


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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 12:13 AM
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I think I read in a Up-fixing that Porsche changed suppliers a few times and the result was obvious. Then the factory changed from a two-stage?? to a clear laq. or something like that that increased the difference.. and that dealerships had issues matching the colors.
There were no computer analysis so it was all done at best guess...
I think in the early 80s most paint suppliers stabilized the differences, I know for sure that even the Ferrari "Red" is in the 10th+ incarnation...
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 02:59 AM
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I've heard (from the internet, so take it for what it's worth) that die hard fans were a little pissed when Ferrari F1 cars went to the current "day glow" red...

The other day I parked next to a '76 that was exactly the same color as mine, but now looking at the picture I'm not sure...

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I bet Oracle's right... Anyone know anything else about this?
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 05:41 AM
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And the earlier paints faded in strong sunlight more than the modern ones with laquers containing filters. Further the red on plastic, for instance the rear bumper, faded more quickly to an orangey red, mine did and after a respray the difference was very noticeable.
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 06:38 AM
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WHen I had mine painted the bodyshop reckoned that there had been at least 4 different flavours of GR.

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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 74carreraturbo
Just kinda curious.... Parked next to an 86 911 that I could only assume was Guards Red and his looked a totally different shade of red than mine

Would '86 guards red be a different shade than '91 guards red???


Rob
For '86, and all years of the 3.2 Carreras, India Red was the standard red non-metallic color. Garnet Red was the standard metallic red color for '86.

"Guards Red" is over used to describe several similar red colors that Porsche used, particularly Signal Red used for 356s and early 911/912s. Porsche changed the standard non-metallic red color several times from the early 911/912s to today. Then, of course, there were the optional paint colors available and the special PTO colors.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 03:13 PM
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Even on cars that share the same paint code, I'm not sure if I've ever seen two "Guards Red" car that looked exactly the same. This pigment seems especially susceptible to differences in UV exposure and even aging. You can have a GR car with seemingly no oxidation compound cut, and it will look a completely different shade.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearclaw
Even on cars that share the same paint code, I'm not sure if I've ever seen two "Guards Red" car that looked exactly the same. This pigment seems especially susceptible to differences in UV exposure and even aging. You can have a GR car with seemingly no oxidation compound cut, and it will look a completely different shade.
Sure, all of the red colors "fade", etc. from exposure to UV rays and differing maintenance of the paint over time. But, I took the OP's question to be more about has the Factory ever changed the "shade" of Guards Red from one year to another. They have not.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bull
Sure, all of the red colors "fade", etc. from exposure to UV rays and differing maintenance of the paint over time. But, I took the OP's question to be more about has the Factory ever changed the "shade" of Guards Red from one year to another. They have not.
Right, I missed his point about '86 vs. '91. It should be the same GR formulation.
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