A Cayenne editorial; not for its' proponents:
01-31-2008, 02:22 PM
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Perhaps his issue is with the GTS timing/market placement, not the Cayenne lineup in general?
The 968 was a great vehicle (Harm Lagaay called it the most beautiful Porsche), but it was at the wrong time in the company's history, so it was killed.
The GTS perhaps should have come first, then the AWD version...much like the progression in the Carreras?
The 968 was a great vehicle (Harm Lagaay called it the most beautiful Porsche), but it was at the wrong time in the company's history, so it was killed.
The GTS perhaps should have come first, then the AWD version...much like the progression in the Carreras?
Down here in Texas we love all things large, especially Trucks and SUV's. To say that Porsche sells a large amount of the Cayenne vehicles is an understatement. However, there is generally two types of buyers for this class of vehicle here-Country club/soccer moms who want tp drive something expensive that the "Masses" can't afford and thereby cementing their status, and the true users who hunt, fish, camp, and haul. For the first group, Porsche had hit the jackpot. Forget that most Cayennes will never see a day offroad and who can blame them? I don't know about you, but the thought of scratching the expensive paint job in some offroad brush or bending an expensive wheel on a rock is not something I would relish. That's why people who really need and use a 4-wheeler usually buy a Ford, Chevy, Dodge, or Toyota for their needs. They won't go 130mph on the road but who cares? They will go 90mph all day on the highway and still haul a camping trailer through mud and rough trails to get back to nature.And don't forget that these vehicles are cheaper to purchase and repair. By the way, who in his right mind would drive a large vehicle at 130mph anyway? And why the rush to get from 0-70 when you are hauling a trailer? Don't get me wrong here, I am all for Porsche satisfying the SUV market to make a profit. I am also impressed with their technical ability to get as much performance as they do out of such a large vehicle. But in MHO, I would rather see them produce a truly technical tour-de-force of a 4-seater that would showcase the Porsche philosophy-lightweight,fast,supreme handling, and sleek "design with a purpose" that has characterized the Porsche since it's inception. If Ferrari can do it, you know that Porsche can do it and cheaper as well.
I have the Cayenne Technical Information book issued by Porsche which is an interesting read about 300 pages. It explains their approach and reasoning behind the Cayenne and it makes a lot of sense. The Cayenne is a test bed for the upcoming Panamera and other cars in general. It took a lot of guts to take on the SUV market and make a vehicle that is so diversified. I use mine to tow and go offroad and it gathers groceries and takes us skiing. Best yet it excites you when you drive vs just transportation, gadgets and glits which is the feeling I get from driving the competition. It is a perfect all around vehicle and would prefer to drive it over any Ford, Dodge or Chevy or European SUV. BTW I drive a Chevy avalanche as a DD just because i commute on one of the worst roads on the East coast 6 days a week. The CT is too nice for that and the Chevy is expendable. Anyone who says the Cayenne is a waste or unnecessary has never driven one (except for Larry) I for one being a Porsche enthusiast and multiple Porsche owner for more than 25 years just wish they had something like this back 25 years ago.
01-31-2008, 02:49 PM
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I got one as a loaner once. Did not like it and never again as my Lexus LX470(Land Cruiser) works much better for me. Like the lovers will say...I don't get it!
01-31-2008, 04:59 PM
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01-31-2008, 08:00 PM
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There is a grain of truth in his message...
On the other hand, it isn't like Porsche was marketing a pickup! Actually, now that I think about it, that would be pretty neat! Checkbook is vibrating just thinking of that.
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01-31-2008, 08:21 PM
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02-01-2008, 11:06 AM
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02-01-2008, 04:11 PM
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God no not another.
No the similarities end with the body, unless we are talking about the 1st generation V6's and then I agree Porsche should never have made them. Although the VW V10 TDI is a very nice engine.
Suspension, brakes, most importantly the motor, and just about most everything else of importance are different. Handling characteristics are not close, braking is far superior. No plastic front fenders and to each his own I like the looks of the Cayenne far better myself.
Drive it before you mock it.
No the similarities end with the body, unless we are talking about the 1st generation V6's and then I agree Porsche should never have made them. Although the VW V10 TDI is a very nice engine.
Suspension, brakes, most importantly the motor, and just about most everything else of importance are different. Handling characteristics are not close, braking is far superior. No plastic front fenders and to each his own I like the looks of the Cayenne far better myself.
Drive it before you mock it.
02-03-2008, 06:56 AM
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