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Old 02-10-2006, 04:16 PM
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Hey guys-

I'm wondering what you all have done for brake cooling. I'm not sure what the most effective way - I had scoops under the A arms in the 3.2 that were fairly effective. Now, I do have the lights removed and the scoops in the bumper - now what?

I saw that someone had used the shaft where the C4 would normally be using (empty in the C2). I'm not sure the air would effectively move through in this manner.

Thoughts? Suggestions? ...besides getting a huge brake kit

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Chris

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Well, I went the big red route to help with the cooling. I'm now adding cooling by going to Jongbloed wheels which have an "aero" design that they say cools the brakes on cup cars by about 90 degrees compared to a "normal" wheel. We will add ducting if required, but I'm hoping none is.
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I actually have cup car wheels on my car - how does this work? They don't look much different from the stardard cup I's (just much wider).
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Summit Point is very hard on brakes and I never have fade (up to 30 mins.) with Pagid Blacks and Super Blue. However, I think brake cooling is always a good thing and should probably look into this more myself.
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Try these:
http://treffen.pca.org/tech/tech_qa_...77D03864884%7D

http://p-car.com/diy/coolingduct/
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I bought mine here:
http://www.rennspd.com/Products.asp?...ID=10&catID=11
Not the greatest quality, but I can make them look better. Get the smaller ducts as they have a tab to help them fit the bumper better than the bigger ducts.
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I have scoops that are mounted in the center of the car, between the front wheels and below the space that the C4 use for the front axel. The scoops force the air through a hose that is in the same place as the front axel of the C4 and directly out to the wheel. I also use Jongbloed wheels which help pull air through the rotors. My front pads use to wear at twice the rate of the rears but now wear at the same rate. I bought the scoops and hose from Smartracing. This was an easy installation. Hope this helps.
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I got a set of titanium brake shields here (no affiliation).

I have not used them yet (I will this coming summer) but, if you search the archives, many here people think they help.

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I have the scoops in, but I want to make sure that I'm actually getting air to the brakes (or a sufficient amount). It seems that with all the 90 degree anlges, that not enough would get there. I'm wonering if an additional scoop under the A-arm would be better (attached to the factory "scoop").
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PhilW,
Do you have any pics of your setup? It sounds like a great way to get air to the brakes, of course I have already bought the fog light air intakes, but I suppose I can use them to cool the A/C condenser and oil cooler if your setup looks like it works better......
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Phil W, I would also be interested in seeing your solution.
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Here is a photo of the passangerside cool brake scoop. The carmera was at the driverside front bumper, so the tire you see is the front passanger side. The scoops are behind the trunk and attached to the black plastic/fiber pannel that covers where the front drivetrain is on a C4. This won't work on a C4. This works great.
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Phil,
Which cool brake kit are you using if any? Is it one for a 930 Turbo? I'm particularlly interested in how you are getting the air to the center of the hub, if that is what you are doing. Thanks,
Scott
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The two metal scoops came from Smartracing page 67 of their current online catalog. I run the 2.5" brake Duct hose (which cost $9 a foot if you can believe it) up and out to the rotor and secure it with zip ties. I do not use the metal plate that forces the into the rotor because they work on pre 964 cars and my car is a 93 964. If you get under the car and remove the black cover just behind the trunk it will be more apparent where the $9/ft brake duct hose fits.
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So basically you are directing the air to the general "area" of the rotor?


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