Andy Roe

At times I hate the fact I bought a Black 964! It shows up all the tiny scratches that the paint work has picked up in the cars life. Does anyone know of a good way to remove or blend them in without a respray?

Andy

Nick Appleton

Andy, from what I hear from various fans of Zymol and the like there are a number of products that are specifically designed to tackle those 'swirls' in the paint without resorting to abrasive cutting compounds.

Not tried them myself, so probably not much of a response really, on reflection..... <img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" />

marc 1xx1

Andy:

I use two products depending upon the severity of the swirls....

3M Imperial Hand Glaze or
P21S Gloss Enhancing Paintwork Cleaner

Then follow-up with a good coat of wax.

Always work product in straight lines as the wind would flow over the car. Circular wax-on/wax-off motion is good for more swirls and the 'movies'.

A great (USA) site for car care products and technical tips is:

<a href="http://www.carcareonline.com" target="_blank">www.carcareonline.com</a> I do not know if they ship abroad.

No affiliation, just a satisfied customer.

marc <img border="0" alt="[burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />

GaryN

Hi Andy,

You should have attended the "UK Zymol Day" held late'ish last year at Richard's house in Cambridge. I also have a flat black (A1 - colour code) 964 and I have used and will highly recommend Zymol, they have a product called "Lem-Klay" this used with a liquid lubricant works wonders. I've never used 3M as Marc has suggested but I have read good write-up on the product. But for my money with a Black car you'll need to go a long way to beat Zymol.

Cheers
Gary '91 C2 Black Coupe

Andy Roe

Gary,

I've been considering the use of Zymol too. Does the starter pack include this "Lem Klay" stuff? They advertise with prices form £90 to £180 which is rather a lot!

Does anyone know if you can buy the Zymol bits individually?

Andy

horst

Zymol HD Cleanse

Ragin' Bajan

There's a good buzz about <a href="http://forums.rennlist.com/cgi-bin/rennforums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=006829#000000" target="_blank">Zaino</a>.
From their website <a href="http://www.zainobros.com" target="_blank">http://www.zainobros.com</a> ( <a href="http://www.zaino.ca" target="_blank">Zaino in Canada</a>) it looks like it's only available through mail order, but certainly cheaper than Zymol. Perhaps one of you British dudes could become a UK distributor if you like it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
I haven't tried it myself, but will be ordering a bottle with a friend and giving it a go once winter passes.

ChuckG

I've got a Midnight Blue 964; probably just as bad for swirl marks as a black one. I've had great luck with the 3M Imperial Hand Glaze.

AK

Glaze would be the product that you want. Then followed by a coat of wax. Personally I have had very good luck with Meguiar's.

To really make it look good start with a clay bar, then move to a very light swirl remover, glaze, and wax.

RSAErick

I struggle mightily with the same problems on my black car. I have very good results with Meguiars products, however I find them VERY difficult to remove. I will be trying something new product this spring.

J-McDonald

I've had good results with my car using P21S paint cleanser, followed by a coat of Collinite wax.

Jay H

I've used 3M Hand Glaze followed by Blitz Wax for years now. I've had great results so far. My wife own's a dark navy blue GM car that seems to be worse than black. 2 minutes after washing it and it's dirty again. The 3M really fills in the swirl marks and a couple of coats of Blitz helps the car look pretty good.

One other thought: After you find the products that work for you and get the results you want, make sure you use only 100% cotton or microfiber cloths to wash your car. Use plenty of decent quality car soap and water. Rinse the wash cloth constantly while washing the car. Keep a good coat of wax on the car at all times. This will keep from scratching your paint even more.

Hope this helps,
Jay
<a href="http://www.jays911.com" target="_blank">90 964</a>

GaryN

Hi Andy,

To answer your question: The "Lem-Klay" is extra it's £10 but is worth it's weight in gold on a dark car with hairline scratches. Yes the starter kit is around £90 but the products lasts a loooonnnggg time.The basic process is,
1. Wash car with Zymol "Clear"
2. Lem-Klay the car
3. HD Cleanse
4. Then apply the carnuba wax.
I can send you a couple of digital photo's off line of the results - I'm sure you will be impressed.

hope this helps

Cheers
Gary '91 C2

johnfm

GAry

how long for the above process? Sounds like about 8 hours!!

GaryN

Yip, to do it properly count on a full day's work, that's including in the door sills and body work in engine bay and rubbing Zymol leather care on seat (Leather care also included in starter pack).