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Old 07-17-2005, 09:45 PM
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Puma -have you driven many 964`s ? You might find the heavy clutch is normal.
All the 964`s ive driven have heavyish clutches (compared to modern cars)
My car has had a clutch in the last 30k miles and its a bit heavier than my 2005 vauxhall repmobile,its the price you pay for power
Old 07-17-2005, 09:56 PM
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I found my clutch heavy at first but got used to it.....then it seemed to get even heavier over time.

I had the master/slave bled and new fluid put it -- made a huge difference so, while clutch is still heavier than a modern car, it is much lighter thsn it was.

A clutch bleed is not hard to do (I'm told, as I did not do this myself) so you may want to try it to see if it lightens your clutch.

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Old 07-17-2005, 11:19 PM
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bathrom scale small enough to put in there between your foot and the clutch. we could all test and compare numbers.
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i'll try tomorrow evening when i get home from work. shouldnt be too hard. I am curious to know how mine stacks up. Maybe some others will test also.
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My coupe has a very light clutch and my cabrio is really heavy, feels like a truck... both are stock, same year car, same clutch brand, both C4's. My assumption is the return spring at the pedal cluster is adjusted tighter on the cabrio, but I've never checked.
Old 07-18-2005, 12:59 AM
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There is an eccentric spring that actually takes some extra force from the beginning of pedal travel and gives it back to you further down (where the pedal is heavier). I don't think there is a return spring down there (doesnt the pressure plate do that?). if that eccentric is adjusted incorrectly it will do nothing but hurt you b/c it will engage too late and never get to the part where it helps you. I was highly impressed with the widget. I think its just me that is impressed though, as I've never seen anyone else mention it. /shrug
Old 07-18-2005, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by stuart1997
Puma -have you driven many 964`s ? You might find the heavy clutch is normal.
All the 964`s ive driven have heavyish clutches (compared to modern cars)
My car has had a clutch in the last 30k miles and its a bit heavier than my 2005 vauxhall repmobile,its the price you pay for power
I used to own one in 2000 and sold after a year becuase...uh long story...anyways missed it too much now I have one again. It could just be me. Maybe I'll find another one to compare it to.


There is an eccentric spring that actually takes some extra force from the beginning of pedal travel ...
-maybe I'll check this out too as well as other suggestions (master/slave bleed)
Old 07-18-2005, 01:28 PM
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If the clutch is smooth (moves smoothly through the range, does not feel like it binds, does not change as the engine warms up) I would not worry too much about it.

Bleeding the clutch slave is still good practice though.
Old 07-18-2005, 07:53 PM
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Ok so the bathroom scale isnt as wonderful and idea as it could have been. So take my results with a grain of salt. Initial force to start engaging the clutch is 30 lb. There is a small movement before really engaging it, so i'm not counting that 5 lb or so. When i went to the floor with it I got about 80-90 lb. I am not positive I wasnt getting a bad reading as the scale was bigger than I would have liked for the purpose.

so 30lb to 80lb is my result. For what its worth. It is stiff, but I dont have trouble with it unless I have to hold it in for long periods.
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Well I brought my car to my regular mechanic finally (the guys I trust and have used in the past) and he believes the same thing I did. The clutch is too heavy. I drove another "tuned" 964 and it was much lighter. Brakes also seemed bad and was confirmed. He thinks I can try the fluid flush both brakes and clutch and hopefully it should help.
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Originally Posted by Heirsh
I am not positive I wasnt getting a bad reading as the scale was bigger than I would have liked for the purpose.
You could try one of those spring hooks used to weigh fish tied to the clutch pedal if the scale was too large to fit well.

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