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Old 05-03-2003, 02:26 PM
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Post New Gas Pedal for Easy Heel and Toe

Just put a new "Wings Engineering Effortless Heel and Toe" gas pedal on my 90 C-2 and have to say I love it. Before, even under hard braking, the gas pedal was just to low to reach for proper heel and toe, or better put, to blip the gas during down shifts. This thing just slips over the gas pedal and clamps on. It has 3 easy adjustments you can make. I set mine up where the gas pedal is about an inch or so higher. Before I could heel and toe my Ford Ranger better than my 911. They adertise in Excellance and the PCA Magazine. It's about $110. Just thought I'd share this with you. Mark
Old 05-05-2003, 02:12 AM
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Yup, that's a dandy little invention, I've seen a few people with them.

I learned to heel and toe, actually MY method is more like "fat foot" my brake pedal and gas in my SC, where you could adjust the brake pedal down further towards the gas pedal.

You really don't have the same luxury in a C2. <img border="0" alt="[grrrrrrr]" title="" src="graemlins/cussing.gif" />

I have learned to adapt and overcome, so I am pretty much able to do the same thing in my C2, but with a little more ankle-twisting effort. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

The "Wings" pedal looks to be a valid invention and I would encourage anyone to try one if they are tracking their car and want to utilize the benefits of "heel and toe".
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Being, ah . . . . older and a tad over weight, (read old and fat), my ankles are not as supple as they used to be. I used a Wings pedal on my SC and found it worked extremely well for blipping the gas while braking and downshifting. It is well engineered and fabricated. Looked cool too.

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Old 05-05-2003, 04:03 PM
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How about just raising the gas pedal a bit? Takes a couple of minutes and works fine.

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Old 05-06-2003, 03:45 AM
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I had the same problem and lowered my brake pedal a bit. Jeff, I hope when you say the same luxury doesn't existint in a C2, you're not implying that it's unsafe to lower the brake pedal--are you? Nothing seems inherently less safe, but I'd like to know if there is a potential problem.
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Well, you CAN adjust your brake pedal lower, but then the switches for your brake lights/cruise control won't work properly...at least I haven't figured out a way!

I lowered my brake pedal soon after purchasing my C2 and was all set to give it a road test when I figured out that my brake lights would stay on because the switch was not making contact! <img border="0" alt="[grrrrrrr]" title="" src="graemlins/cussing.gif" />

I messed with it for awhile, and while it may have just been me, or I was just temporarily "blinded by the light", I couldn't find a solution...so I adjusted my brake pedal back to where it was.

As for adjusting the gas pedal, if you change the vertical adjuster (the one with the ball attached at the top that snaps into your pedal) you are effectively changing the "throw" or travel of your bellcrank on your throttle body, in which you may bind the butterfly in the housing after awhile, because it's limiter is what's stopping your travel vice what's supposed to at your floorboard. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

In other words, it's just not the proper way to do it and you could damage your throttle body unit. Sure, there are two other ways to adjust the throttle cable, but then you effectively lower your gas pedal again...at least that's what I've figured out, I haven't actually gone in and changed all the adjustments, I just "fine tune" the travel at the black plastic adjuster before the cable disappears into the body of the car underneath.

SO, unless someone has definitely figured out a way, I will continue to utilize my "Cirque du Soleil" ankle-twisting contortionist method to "blip" or "fat-foot" (as I call it) my throttle on downshift.

It works!

...anybody but Manny wanna try me? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
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I agree with Jeff on the Pedal Adjustment at the back of the gas pedal. This will directly effect the opening of the throttle. A good check to see if your getting full throttle is have someone press the pedal to the floor and check to see if the throttle body is fully open. I'm betting over the years there is some stretch in the cable. Before I put the new pedal on I tested this and was not getting the full throttle. I proved this by taking the car out and that last little bit I was missing made a nice difference in power. I made the adjustment on the shaft on the back of the pedal so when the pedal is to the floor the throttle body is fully open.
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Well, I hesitate to suggest such a low-tech fix, but my very first try with an early car was to put a 3/4" board on top of the gas pedal. It worked very well for quite a while.

I even painted it black and no one ever knew...

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Old 05-07-2003, 06:27 AM
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Strabo, I just about made a template and cutout a piece of 3/4" pine and painted it black too!

...but before the "creative" side of me went berzerk, I just got used to "fat-footing" it.



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