Tie Rods Replacement - Feedback on Prekom?
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Tie Rods Replacement - Feedback on Prekom?
Having my car on the elevator while bleeding the brakes, I noticed that both front tie rods were heavy aged, more than the rest of the parts, and right side one was a bit bent too.
I looked for the replacement part online and found Prekom parts. The endlink that goes directly to the direction cilindres has ball joint vs the OEM joint, and looks sturdier from my side.
Anyone has some feedback about these tie rods? http://prekom.si/porsche-parts/porsc.../tie-rod-ends/
I looked for the replacement part online and found Prekom parts. The endlink that goes directly to the direction cilindres has ball joint vs the OEM joint, and looks sturdier from my side.
Anyone has some feedback about these tie rods? http://prekom.si/porsche-parts/porsc.../tie-rod-ends/
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Prekom actually makes the parts, which are then re-marketed/labeled and marked up by the parts houses. So, nothing to worry about with their parts. I'm running quite a few of them.
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I use their spherical/monoball joint and think it's a great upgrade. Makes the steering a touch more responsive and no drawbacks. It isn't night & day, but any steering improvement is worthwhile. Known as "RSR" tie rods, 993 folks upgrade to this style too.
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Right here-
https://www.prekom-usa.com/product/9...-rod-assembly/
The conical end is different on the 993 uprights so you need 993 tie rod ends. No issues using these on the c4 with all its extra bits either. You’ll need 993 steering rack boots too.
Prekom, if you’re listening, message me for my advertising kick-back payment
https://www.prekom-usa.com/product/9...-rod-assembly/
The conical end is different on the 993 uprights so you need 993 tie rod ends. No issues using these on the c4 with all its extra bits either. You’ll need 993 steering rack boots too.
Prekom, if you’re listening, message me for my advertising kick-back payment
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Right here-
https://www.prekom-usa.com/product/9...-rod-assembly/
The conical end is different on the 993 uprights so you need 993 tie rod ends. No issues using these on the c4 with all its extra bits either. You’ll need 993 steering rack boots too.
Prekom, if you’re listening, message me for my advertising kick-back payment
https://www.prekom-usa.com/product/9...-rod-assembly/
The conical end is different on the 993 uprights so you need 993 tie rod ends. No issues using these on the c4 with all its extra bits either. You’ll need 993 steering rack boots too.
Prekom, if you’re listening, message me for my advertising kick-back payment
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Right here-
https://www.prekom-usa.com/product/9...-rod-assembly/
The conical end is different on the 993 uprights so you need 993 tie rod ends. No issues using these on the c4 with all its extra bits either. You’ll need 993 steering rack boots too.
Prekom, if you’re listening, message me for my advertising kick-back payment
https://www.prekom-usa.com/product/9...-rod-assembly/
The conical end is different on the 993 uprights so you need 993 tie rod ends. No issues using these on the c4 with all its extra bits either. You’ll need 993 steering rack boots too.
Prekom, if you’re listening, message me for my advertising kick-back payment
So, in order to install those on my 964 C4 1990, I'll be needn't 2x 993 RS tie rods, 2x 993 rack boots? Anything else? Because I think that it would be an interesting upgrade
I'll have to keep the extra 5mm longer steering stops for 17" wheels?
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I'm trying to figure out a solution as well, because nearly 500€ for a tie rod refresh is ridiculous. I've spent a bit of time looking at catalogues and I reckon that Renault Trafic inners are a goer, coupled with the correct rod ends, of course. The other option that I reckon would work is standard 964 rod ends with the centre 'sleeve' bit (Lemförder, and 112€ the pair), but using cut down and rethreaded Corrado 'inners'.
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This is one approach on a C2, though there are some alternative options and some things left out-
https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...ghts-long.html
The lower strut hardware is all different.
The 993 ball joint stud on the control arm is different.
You'll need 993 front calipers/rotors and 993 C2 rear calipers, 993 front wheel speed sensors, front bearings.
The 993 inner tie rods need cut down if you use 964 longitudinals.
Steering stops are as-needed. Depending on the wheel/tire/offset/alignment, they may not be required. It's a safe bet to use them but you lose a touch of turning radius.
C4 adds one extra requirement- the front axles need modified for the dust cover lip on the outer end
https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...l#post18348246
I'm trying to figure out a solution as well, because nearly 500€ for a tie rod refresh is ridiculous. I've spent a bit of time looking at catalogues and I reckon that Renault Trafic inners are a goer, coupled with the correct rod ends, of course. The other option that I reckon would work is standard 964 rod ends with the centre 'sleeve' bit (Lemförder, and 112€ the pair), but using cut down and rethreaded Corrado 'inners'.
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I'm trying to figure out a solution as well, because nearly 500€ for a tie rod refresh is ridiculous. I've spent a bit of time looking at catalogues and I reckon that Renault Trafic inners are a goer, coupled with the correct rod ends, of course. The other option that I reckon would work is standard 964 rod ends with the centre 'sleeve' bit (Lemförder, and 112€ the pair), but using cut down and rethreaded Corrado 'inners'.
All up I'm done for less than 150 bucks.
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Fantastic. Looks like I'll be under 200€ for that lot, which is much more palatable. Thanks!
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What's your goal? This is very far from a simple swap. The only reason is if you need the bigger heat sink of the 993 brakes. The weight of the larger 993 brakes negates any savings from the alloy uprights (though you can break even by using lighter Racing Brake rotors), and that extra weight is at the worst possible location.
This is one approach on a C2, though there are some alternative options and some things left out-
https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...ghts-long.html
The lower strut hardware is all different.
The 993 ball joint stud on the control arm is different.
You'll need 993 front calipers/rotors and 993 C2 rear calipers, 993 front wheel speed sensors, front bearings.
The 993 inner tie rods need cut down if you use 964 longitudinals.
Steering stops are as-needed. Depending on the wheel/tire/offset/alignment, they may not be required. It's a safe bet to use them but you lose a touch of turning radius.
C4 adds one extra requirement- the front axles need modified for the dust cover lip on the outer end
https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...l#post18348246
This is one approach on a C2, though there are some alternative options and some things left out-
https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...ghts-long.html
The lower strut hardware is all different.
The 993 ball joint stud on the control arm is different.
You'll need 993 front calipers/rotors and 993 C2 rear calipers, 993 front wheel speed sensors, front bearings.
The 993 inner tie rods need cut down if you use 964 longitudinals.
Steering stops are as-needed. Depending on the wheel/tire/offset/alignment, they may not be required. It's a safe bet to use them but you lose a touch of turning radius.
C4 adds one extra requirement- the front axles need modified for the dust cover lip on the outer end
https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...l#post18348246
I'll try to get the 964 ball joint option and install the spacers shown to get the upgrade & 17" in place at the same time. Thanks!!
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Are the spacers really needed? I have had 18's on my car for years now and never ran into an issue.
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Mine is a 1990, so I will install the spacers.