bhensarl

My right fog light is dead. I didn't think that was such a big deal until I checked online and found that to replace 1 fog light would cost about $130. So now I'm thinking maybe I should just upgrade to the air intakes that replace the foglights. I know that it takes some serious work to get these to put enough air onto the brakes to cool them, but I haven't as of yet even taken my car onto the track, so that's not that great a concern for me. I do like the fact that I will not have to replace them if I take out my fog lights. My real question is: my car is Grand Prix White. If the intakes don't come in exactly the right color to match my car, how difficult and/or expensive will it be to have them painted to match my car? Any ideas? Thanks.
Brian

JoeW

Brian, it's my understanding that it depends a lot on the condition of the paint around the new work. Whites like Grand Prix are difficult to match and good paintshops seem to want to blend the new work with the surrounding panels. And you really wouldn't want it "almost" right. Joe W.

Bill Gregory

I bought my brake cooling kit already painted grand prix white, and the scoops fit right in. If there's any difference in paint due to ageing I can't tell.

marc 1xx1

Bill:

I picked up a pair of inlets as well. I am in the process of assembling a kit of parts to complete the install. I have a few questions for you...

What type of hose are you using?

I have been looking for a plastic fitting that I can cut into my inner wheel well/arch that will provide a finished "end" for the hose at the wall of the inner wheel well....

It is too bad that there is not a kit for our cars that can get the air directly onto the rotors (like the 911 kits available on the market). How are you routing the air to your rotors or are you just dumping it within the wheel well?

Any sources and part numbers would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

marc

Bill Gregory

Marc,

I installed a Porsche kit, which came with all the key parts. I added a scoop to direct the air, as you can see in this picture:



Just some Home Depot bar stock and some leftover sheet aluminum. If you do something like that, make sure you don't create any interference with the brake line, or tire. I tried one US Techart distributor to see if they would sell just the part that some use to direct the air, which attaches on the inner wheel well just back of the hose opening, but they wouldn't sell it, hence my own contraption.

I've seen where people have used 2" to 2 1/2" SCAT-type hose from the scoop to the wheel well, and in some cases just running the hose through a tight hole in the wheel well (don't want any openings there, as air destined for the oil cooler can slip through). Aircraft Spruce and Specialty has all sorts of SCAT-type hoses. Free Catalog or online at www.aircraftspruce.com. (No affiliation, just satisfied customer). They have an automotive catalog too, which as I recall, is a subset of the aviation catalog.

You might contact Mike Shaw to see if he'll sell the non-scoop parts without the scoop. Another source might be Porsche, as they offer a parts kit to complete the non-foglamp scoops, it's part number 000.043.300.93. Parts listing shows quantity of one to supply parts for the two scoops, so you would only order qty one, if you go that route.

I've also thought about a NACA duct in the lower black plastic pieces, with a hose routed to push air into the rotor center, ala pre-89 solutions, but just haven't focused on that yet.

Flagg

Hey,

I have thought of this modification from time to time..........for the people that have it - where are some good sources.

Where is the Porsche Part listed? Is it color coated or do you get them painted? Are there other good sources??

Thanks...........Flagg

Cupcar

I had a kit *very* similar to Bill Gregory's kit painted Grand Prix white for $130 at a local body shop.

Flagg

I assume you have to cut a hole in the wheel well to actually get this air to the brakes?? And how hard is it to run the hose. I have heard pros and cons about the number of turns the hose has to make for the 964 and if it is really worth it.

Anyone who has done it - do you have any idea if your breaks really stay cooler............OR do they just look cool!

Anyone have some suppliers of the kits??

Thanks,

Flagg

Bill Gregory

You have to cut a hole in the plastic wheel well liner for the hose to exit. In addition, on the oil cooler side, you cut a hole in a thin aluminum piece next to the wheel liner. On the A/C side, besides the wheel liner you cut a hole in an angled steel part of the a/c shield. Running the hose is very easy, too.

Unless you drive your 964 at the track, there's no reason to add brake cooling at the wheel well. If you do drive your 964 at the track, it's really one of the few ways to get additional air anywhere near the rotor, without chopping other parts of the chassis up to accomplish the same thing.

Suppliers of the kit I think we covered already: Porsche, Tech Art, Mike Shaw, FVD, Cargraphic, and others.

a964man

Hi Guys,
have a look at this link, www.stuttgart.co.uk/964p2.html they do a full brake cooling kit, including ducting for the inner wheel arch, no affiliation just fancy it myself.

cheers

C4TT

Well it also depends on if you have a C2 or C4... Apparently the C4 drivetrain gets in the way, and prevents a direct shot to the wheel well.

Has anyone with a C4 directed air to the oil cooler and AC Condenser?

I was thinking of doing this, but hesitated...