1990s 964 Rainbow Color Pallet - Why was it not popular for US/NA Ordered examples?
#46
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I had a friend who owned an amethyst over amethyst 91 turbo. I have pictures of it sitting next to my cobalt turbo someplace. It was the red to my blue. Gorgeous color although I would have preferred black.
I have to thank my wife for helping me find my cars. I had a tobacco/copper brown SC I loved long before I met her and traded it for a wide body 3.0RS clone I imported during the grey market. I actually went looking for a turbo in the same color which I never found until years later. I should have kept that 3.0RS clone with its Max Moritz built 3.2 L engine and light weight it was a blast and all black. When I started searching for my 94 turbo she had no issues but one restriction. No black cars again. She said I was always cleaning it and she was right. A day later she included red, white and silver. I can't tell you how hard it was even back in the early 2000's to find a non black, red, white or silver 94 turbo. If I Had to bet more than 60% were the standard colors, I found a bunch of midnight blue but she said it was too close to black. So I kept the search up. At the time Ray Joseph had a signal green but was asking a huge premium for it. The day I said I would give up looking after a long couple of years of searching I found the cobalt blue car. Interestingly I talked to the prior owner of my car just 6 months before for nearly 2 hours. Our conversation convinced me to buy the car but he hit me with the car had been sold after our long conversation. Good news was I had all the info I needed and the current owner only put a few hundred miles on it. Found an independent from NJ who moved to CA look it over for me and he said if I don't buy it he will so that was enough for me. The rest is history and something I will never part with.
Same went for my 928GTS. It was very hard to find a 5 speed period never mind in a unique color. Although Amazon isn't quite as rare as the cobalt with 11 GTS's painted that color but only a few 5 speeds so I grabbed it when they were still reasonable.
It would be nice if Porsche one day released info regarding numbers of each color made. I have not been able to find anything other than making a list of cars and colors over the years. Sadly I had everything on a backup drive and my son was kind enough to wipe it clean thinking it had nothing of value on it. So much info I could have contributed here. I look at a lot of these maybe not as many as Nathan but close to a thousand over the years and I can't tell you how few weren't the standard colors. Hind sight is 20/20 they say.
I have a book on the 3.8RS/RSR and they break down the colors. For the street cars even the majority of these were not unique colors as one might expect.
12 speed yellow
10 guards red
8 grand prix white
5 polar silver
5 black
2 maritime
2 metallic black
1 midnight blue
1 amazon green
1 cobalt
2 light yellow
1 tangerine
1 Fly yellow
1 dark blue
1 silver metallic PTS
1 zermatt silver PTS
1 Speed yellow pre production car
Interestingly signal green and rubystone were standard colors and nobody ordered them. Even on a car like this which I would have expected.
I have to thank my wife for helping me find my cars. I had a tobacco/copper brown SC I loved long before I met her and traded it for a wide body 3.0RS clone I imported during the grey market. I actually went looking for a turbo in the same color which I never found until years later. I should have kept that 3.0RS clone with its Max Moritz built 3.2 L engine and light weight it was a blast and all black. When I started searching for my 94 turbo she had no issues but one restriction. No black cars again. She said I was always cleaning it and she was right. A day later she included red, white and silver. I can't tell you how hard it was even back in the early 2000's to find a non black, red, white or silver 94 turbo. If I Had to bet more than 60% were the standard colors, I found a bunch of midnight blue but she said it was too close to black. So I kept the search up. At the time Ray Joseph had a signal green but was asking a huge premium for it. The day I said I would give up looking after a long couple of years of searching I found the cobalt blue car. Interestingly I talked to the prior owner of my car just 6 months before for nearly 2 hours. Our conversation convinced me to buy the car but he hit me with the car had been sold after our long conversation. Good news was I had all the info I needed and the current owner only put a few hundred miles on it. Found an independent from NJ who moved to CA look it over for me and he said if I don't buy it he will so that was enough for me. The rest is history and something I will never part with.
Same went for my 928GTS. It was very hard to find a 5 speed period never mind in a unique color. Although Amazon isn't quite as rare as the cobalt with 11 GTS's painted that color but only a few 5 speeds so I grabbed it when they were still reasonable.
It would be nice if Porsche one day released info regarding numbers of each color made. I have not been able to find anything other than making a list of cars and colors over the years. Sadly I had everything on a backup drive and my son was kind enough to wipe it clean thinking it had nothing of value on it. So much info I could have contributed here. I look at a lot of these maybe not as many as Nathan but close to a thousand over the years and I can't tell you how few weren't the standard colors. Hind sight is 20/20 they say.
I have a book on the 3.8RS/RSR and they break down the colors. For the street cars even the majority of these were not unique colors as one might expect.
12 speed yellow
10 guards red
8 grand prix white
5 polar silver
5 black
2 maritime
2 metallic black
1 midnight blue
1 amazon green
1 cobalt
2 light yellow
1 tangerine
1 Fly yellow
1 dark blue
1 silver metallic PTS
1 zermatt silver PTS
1 Speed yellow pre production car
Interestingly signal green and rubystone were standard colors and nobody ordered them. Even on a car like this which I would have expected.
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#47
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@ Mr. Wolfe, awesome paint job!
@cobalt Appreciate the wealth of information there. Maybe try to have your hard drive forensically recovered? Thank you for contributing to this thread, this is all very valuable information to me since I have always leaned more towards the non standard colors but due to rarity of availability my first inclination to air cooled were silver and midnight blue metallic which is as far as I could get my hands on outside of non red, black, white. aka RBW colors. In these past few years I have been lucky (and a bit wiser) to get my hands on 2-3 jellybean color examples and it took all but a nice dinner conversation to convince the Mrs. it was time for a Porsche for her and I took the gamble on Miami Blue and she loved it. I think because it is close to the Tiffany boxes she also loves, my wallet, not so much. I'm still in the hunt for the next non RBW, non silver air cooled 964, I may even consider parting with my Silver C4 for the right example. I think you're being conservative at 60% standard colors, I am going to say looks to me more like 80-90% for North America. In the last few years I have been closely tracking what is offered publicly, for every 8-10 Red or Black examples you get a white one, and for every 15-20 RBW examples offered you get a silver one, or slate or some other deviation of the standard colors. Seen 1 linen/linen C2 which I almost bought, should've, given the rarity as well and then this tahoe blue that sold recently and the amethyst targa from NY and now the Forest Green from Holt. Other than that its always Red, or Black or White. Talking Coupes and Targas of course, not cabrios. I don't look at those, although @Tarek307 has a really nice slate grey cabrio currently.
@cobalt Appreciate the wealth of information there. Maybe try to have your hard drive forensically recovered? Thank you for contributing to this thread, this is all very valuable information to me since I have always leaned more towards the non standard colors but due to rarity of availability my first inclination to air cooled were silver and midnight blue metallic which is as far as I could get my hands on outside of non red, black, white. aka RBW colors. In these past few years I have been lucky (and a bit wiser) to get my hands on 2-3 jellybean color examples and it took all but a nice dinner conversation to convince the Mrs. it was time for a Porsche for her and I took the gamble on Miami Blue and she loved it. I think because it is close to the Tiffany boxes she also loves, my wallet, not so much. I'm still in the hunt for the next non RBW, non silver air cooled 964, I may even consider parting with my Silver C4 for the right example. I think you're being conservative at 60% standard colors, I am going to say looks to me more like 80-90% for North America. In the last few years I have been closely tracking what is offered publicly, for every 8-10 Red or Black examples you get a white one, and for every 15-20 RBW examples offered you get a silver one, or slate or some other deviation of the standard colors. Seen 1 linen/linen C2 which I almost bought, should've, given the rarity as well and then this tahoe blue that sold recently and the amethyst targa from NY and now the Forest Green from Holt. Other than that its always Red, or Black or White. Talking Coupes and Targas of course, not cabrios. I don't look at those, although @Tarek307 has a really nice slate grey cabrio currently.
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#48
I purchased my C2 new in 1990 when I was 38, living in Michigan. I thought red cars were too common, white cars were best reserved for hot climates, the skittles color cars too flashy and best for southern California/Florida use, and that silver (or any other metallic), my second choice might not age well and be more difficult to match if needing panel repaint.
Black is a high maintenance color, but IMO a clean black car is really pretty, and rubber gaskets, window trim, etc. blend better, and I'm still happy with my car after all these years.
You folks need to realize that back then these cars were purchased to be used as almost everyday transport, and something like mint green would have been considered over-the-top.
Of course, were I back in 1990 buying a new 964...I dunno, you guys have some beautiful REALLY colorful Porsche!!!
Black is a high maintenance color, but IMO a clean black car is really pretty, and rubber gaskets, window trim, etc. blend better, and I'm still happy with my car after all these years.
You folks need to realize that back then these cars were purchased to be used as almost everyday transport, and something like mint green would have been considered over-the-top.
Of course, were I back in 1990 buying a new 964...I dunno, you guys have some beautiful REALLY colorful Porsche!!!
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#49
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I purchased my C2 new in 1990 when I was 38, living in Michigan. I thought red cars were too common, white cars were best reserved for hot climates, the skittles color cars too flashy and best for southern California/Florida use, and that silver (or any other metallic), my second choice might not age well and be more difficult to match if needing panel repaint.
Black is a high maintenance color, but IMO a clean black car is really pretty, and rubber gaskets, window trim, etc. blend better, and I'm still happy with my car after all these years.
You folks need to realize that back then these cars were purchased to be used as almost everyday transport, and something like mint green would have been considered over-the-top.
Of course, were I back in 1990 buying a new 964...I dunno, you guys have some beautiful REALLY colorful Porsche!!!
Black is a high maintenance color, but IMO a clean black car is really pretty, and rubber gaskets, window trim, etc. blend better, and I'm still happy with my car after all these years.
You folks need to realize that back then these cars were purchased to be used as almost everyday transport, and something like mint green would have been considered over-the-top.
Of course, were I back in 1990 buying a new 964...I dunno, you guys have some beautiful REALLY colorful Porsche!!!
#50
Here in Rennlist, there are 20 known Cobalt Blue Metallic 964s, but only 3 of us provided inputs to the registry. I do not add items in the registry unless they are user-submitted.
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What an interesting thread... haven't seen this much collective participation in a while. I know many will consider this sacrilege, but I did a color change, re-paint on my '90 C2 years ago, going from Guards Red to an Audi color, Brilliant Red. The 1st time I saw my Guards Red car under some fluorescent lights at night, I vowed to some day change it. A minor accident provided that opportunity. It's not a $20+K concours paint job... but I rather like it.
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Just landed today all the way from Munich Germany Is my new to me 1990 C4 in Ruby Stone, 86k kilometers ( 53,xxx ) miles
KW suspension suspension ready to be installed and a set of Cup I wheels 😀 the interior is in special order Carrera Grey in 100% leather 😎
KW suspension suspension ready to be installed and a set of Cup I wheels 😀 the interior is in special order Carrera Grey in 100% leather 😎
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Code C00? is that Germany?
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