964 C2 gone and forgotten
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Up until yesterday I had the misfortune of owning 2 money pit Porsche automobiles . I traded my 94 C2 Cab in on a 2004 SVT Cobra Mustang.
I have read every post on this web site and those on Pelican as well. I have had it with these over rated, overpriced toys. Parts made of unobtainium exotic metal that cost 4 times what they are worth. $10,000 engine rebuilds, $100.00 oil changes, $60.00 relays that cost $3.00 to make, $700.00 oil lines, $600.00 torsion bars, etc, etc.
Crooked and incompetent alleged mechanics who are rude and overcharge you, or break something in attempting to fix another issue, and then deny the fact.
Flame away!
I have read every post on this web site and those on Pelican as well. I have had it with these over rated, overpriced toys. Parts made of unobtainium exotic metal that cost 4 times what they are worth. $10,000 engine rebuilds, $100.00 oil changes, $60.00 relays that cost $3.00 to make, $700.00 oil lines, $600.00 torsion bars, etc, etc.
Crooked and incompetent alleged mechanics who are rude and overcharge you, or break something in attempting to fix another issue, and then deny the fact.
Flame away!
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Obviously you bought yourself a dog in the first place, never mind good luck with the depreciation on your Ford ( I assume that they are referred to stateside as they are here Fix Or Repair Daily!!!!)
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Larry,
For whatever reasons, your experiences with these cars have been COMPLETELY different from mine. My Porsches have been extremely reliable, and I've found quality, though admittedly expensive, service. Hope you enjoy your remaining Porsche, and the Mustang.
For whatever reasons, your experiences with these cars have been COMPLETELY different from mine. My Porsches have been extremely reliable, and I've found quality, though admittedly expensive, service. Hope you enjoy your remaining Porsche, and the Mustang.
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Yeah, sorry to hear about your misfortunes with the 964. Maybe I'm just lucky, but so far, this has been the most reliable car that I have EVER owned. From what I've seen on this board, I think that I am NOT alone. Knock on the wood floor board!
On the other hand, I have been put off by some of the prices that Porsche charges for parts - like $300 for the airbag disable, that consists of pennies worth of parts.
Anyway, best of luck with the Cobra.
On the other hand, I have been put off by some of the prices that Porsche charges for parts - like $300 for the airbag disable, that consists of pennies worth of parts.
Anyway, best of luck with the Cobra.
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Larry,
Good luck with your new ride. I've been a Mustang fan for some years now, as the first car I ever bought (in 1975) was a '68 GTCS with a 390 under the hood. I don't recall whether I have ever driven any Mustangs newer than this, but I sure had fun in the '68. So much fun, in fact, that I still own it, and it is currently in the process of being rebuilt. Can't wait to get it onto the road again. I think that it is no accident that Ford decided to model the 2005 'stangs on the '68's: They sure were/are pretty cars.
Don't know how the new ones handle, but the Porsches are pretty much apples and oranges compared to my '68, with its ~65/35 F/R weight ratio. But I am lucky enough that I can enjoy them both depending on my mood or the current "driving need".
Hope it meets your needs/wants, but then again there are plenty of P-Cars out there for great prices for when/if you come back.
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Good luck with your new ride. I've been a Mustang fan for some years now, as the first car I ever bought (in 1975) was a '68 GTCS with a 390 under the hood. I don't recall whether I have ever driven any Mustangs newer than this, but I sure had fun in the '68. So much fun, in fact, that I still own it, and it is currently in the process of being rebuilt. Can't wait to get it onto the road again. I think that it is no accident that Ford decided to model the 2005 'stangs on the '68's: They sure were/are pretty cars.
Don't know how the new ones handle, but the Porsches are pretty much apples and oranges compared to my '68, with its ~65/35 F/R weight ratio. But I am lucky enough that I can enjoy them both depending on my mood or the current "driving need".
Hope it meets your needs/wants, but then again there are plenty of P-Cars out there for great prices for when/if you come back.
Tom
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One could argue that 911s are meant to be a rich-man's toy. That's certainly the case when new, with their $65k(+) sticker price. A rich person can afford the expensive parts and maintenance without blinking an eye. If you're not quite rich, well....guess you gotta suck it up and pay the price of admission. It's either that, or purchase something more plebian. Regardless, it's still a lot cheaper than full-on exotic car (e.g. Ferrari) ownership.
As others have already pointed out, the lower rate of depreciation does lessen the long-term effects of 911 maintenance costs. For example, maintaining a used 911 will likely cost less is the long run than the depreciation hit taken by purchasing a new (say) $35k car every 5 years. With a good residual of 40%, you're looking at $21k in depreciation, plus taxes. So, say $23k in 5 years = $4.6k/year = almost $400/month. Of course, these numbers don't account for the "frustration factor" of having to stress over what's wrong with the car, getting it fixed, dropping it off at the shop, getting 2 things broken for one thing fixed, etc. On the other hand, you're driving a much more interesting car than the typical $35k ride.
As others have already pointed out, the lower rate of depreciation does lessen the long-term effects of 911 maintenance costs. For example, maintaining a used 911 will likely cost less is the long run than the depreciation hit taken by purchasing a new (say) $35k car every 5 years. With a good residual of 40%, you're looking at $21k in depreciation, plus taxes. So, say $23k in 5 years = $4.6k/year = almost $400/month. Of course, these numbers don't account for the "frustration factor" of having to stress over what's wrong with the car, getting it fixed, dropping it off at the shop, getting 2 things broken for one thing fixed, etc. On the other hand, you're driving a much more interesting car than the typical $35k ride.
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TMH,
Wow, I had a 68 FB Mustang with the 390 too. Great car. Didn't corner too well, but straight line was a blast.
Randall,
Thanks for the comments. This Cobra is finished in Dupont "Mystic Chrome" or something like that. The car changes color as you view it from different angles. It IS beautiful paint.
Wow, I had a 68 FB Mustang with the 390 too. Great car. Didn't corner too well, but straight line was a blast.
Randall,
Thanks for the comments. This Cobra is finished in Dupont "Mystic Chrome" or something like that. The car changes color as you view it from different angles. It IS beautiful paint.
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Actually I've just re-read this and, after a bad day at work - in which the best thing about it was getting in my 964 to come home. I gotta say Larry while I still am sorry for your experience, I think you are totally wrong that these are over-priced, or over-rated.
To each their own and all that, but a Ford (even one in some kind of chameleon paint) just leaves me totally cold. And I mean not even luke warm interested. Medically dead in fact. My neighbors new Mini Cooper gets me more excited. Compared to a 911 (even one with $600 torsion bars or water works), I just don't get it. Ah well. whatever floats your boat.
To each their own and all that, but a Ford (even one in some kind of chameleon paint) just leaves me totally cold. And I mean not even luke warm interested. Medically dead in fact. My neighbors new Mini Cooper gets me more excited. Compared to a 911 (even one with $600 torsion bars or water works), I just don't get it. Ah well. whatever floats your boat.