Still looking for a 964 - help , opinion on this one
03-04-2018, 11:36 PM
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Still looking for a 964 - help , opinion on this one
editing this thread on june 1st ,the car it was about isn't around for sale anymore- but i'm still looking for a 964, i no longer care if its a C2 or C4, i've missed out on a few but i'm not letting summer pass without me getting one if i can
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03-05-2018, 12:59 AM
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The steering rack leak would be something that needs attention sooner than later. Mine was also seeping and I just had it replaced. The downside is that you’ll need to have a large part of the front suspension disassembled to replace the rack which means a new alignment and thus more labor. I would estimate about $2k assuming you go with a rebuilt rack from a supplier that will warrant their work.
Other than that it really comes down to your own expectations for the car. Are you ok with the paint job and overall condition of the car? Is the interior in good shape or does it need some work?
Other than that it really comes down to your own expectations for the car. Are you ok with the paint job and overall condition of the car? Is the interior in good shape or does it need some work?
03-05-2018, 01:21 AM
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The steering rack leak would be something that needs attention sooner than later. Mine was also seeping and I just had it replaced. The downside is that you’ll need to have a large part of the front suspension disassembled to replace the rack which means a new alignment and thus more labor. I would estimate about $2k assuming you go with a rebuilt rack from a supplier that will warrant their work.
Other than that it really comes down to your own expectations for the car. Are you ok with the paint job and overall condition of the car? Is the interior in good shape or does it need some work?
Other than that it really comes down to your own expectations for the car. Are you ok with the paint job and overall condition of the car? Is the interior in good shape or does it need some work?
03-05-2018, 08:43 AM
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You don't mention if it is a late or early build 91 so does it have the updated engine or not? No records so just speculation on what the engine needs or not? Highish miles, accident damage, chain cover leak, steering rack leak, full respray, for the price I would pass. Sounds like a $50k car tops most likely less.
I also would not trust any prior alignment and to just measure will get you close but not perfect and honestly question the shop you're using. A full alignment on a Hunter shouldn't set you back more than $200. Small price to pay for setting up a car properly. If your shop has a new alignment machine they can tell if any adjustments are needed in under a minute.
I also would not trust any prior alignment and to just measure will get you close but not perfect and honestly question the shop you're using. A full alignment on a Hunter shouldn't set you back more than $200. Small price to pay for setting up a car properly. If your shop has a new alignment machine they can tell if any adjustments are needed in under a minute.
03-05-2018, 02:24 PM
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You don't mention if it is a late or early build 91 so does it have the updated engine or not? No records so just speculation on what the engine needs or not? Highish miles, accident damage, chain cover leak, steering rack leak, full respray, for the price I would pass. Sounds like a $50k car tops most likely less.
I also would not trust any prior alignment and to just measure will get you close but not perfect and honestly question the shop you're using. A full alignment on a Hunter shouldn't set you back more than $200. Small price to pay for setting up a car properly. If your shop has a new alignment machine they can tell if any adjustments are needed in under a minute.
I also would not trust any prior alignment and to just measure will get you close but not perfect and honestly question the shop you're using. A full alignment on a Hunter shouldn't set you back more than $200. Small price to pay for setting up a car properly. If your shop has a new alignment machine they can tell if any adjustments are needed in under a minute.
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03-05-2018, 02:43 PM
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Did they meter the paint? There are countless cars I come across that had minor damage that nobody could find and looked good. When I metered the paint the meter couldn't read anything as there was so much bondo it exceeded 50mils. You want to avoid things like this, eventually it will show up and to remove the bondo to fix it right can add up quickly. I can't tell you how many minor accident cars I have seen pass PPI's end up being full panel or tub sectioned and clips replaced. Sometimes the work is top notch but usually not and unless you know these cars well can be a nightmare.
Not questioning your shop doing the PPI but do they know these air cooled cars specifically the 964 well enough? Many we work on them all shops don't have a clue although that is not always the case.
Just saying take the emotion out of it until you are sure it is what it is represented as. A bad 911 is no better than a bad VW Beetle and will cost you considerably more to fix.
03-05-2018, 03:27 PM
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The early 91 engines came with an early designed head and cylinders which did not use sealing rings. These are known to leak oil over time due to warping of the heads. There are TSB's addressing the fix and many were done by Porsche dealers under warranty although I have seen some that have made it through without any work. This can get very expensive if not addressed previously. You're approaching 100k miles assuming the odo hasn't been tampered with or has not been replaced or disconnected for a long time. The later engines 100k miles is nothing the earlier ones without any work most likely past due. If something was done not knowing who did the work or what was done can prove to be an expensive problem. I would consider a full leak down and compression test.
Did they meter the paint? There are countless cars I come across that had minor damage that nobody could find and looked good. When I metered the paint the meter couldn't read anything as there was so much bondo it exceeded 50mils. You want to avoid things like this, eventually it will show up and to remove the bondo to fix it right can add up quickly. I can't tell you how many minor accident cars I have seen pass PPI's end up being full panel or tub sectioned and clips replaced. Sometimes the work is top notch but usually not and unless you know these cars well can be a nightmare.
Not questioning your shop doing the PPI but do they know these air cooled cars specifically the 964 well enough? Many we work on them all shops don't have a clue although that is not always the case.
Just saying take the emotion out of it until you are sure it is what it is represented as. A bad 911 is no better than a bad VW Beetle and will cost you considerably more to fix.
Did they meter the paint? There are countless cars I come across that had minor damage that nobody could find and looked good. When I metered the paint the meter couldn't read anything as there was so much bondo it exceeded 50mils. You want to avoid things like this, eventually it will show up and to remove the bondo to fix it right can add up quickly. I can't tell you how many minor accident cars I have seen pass PPI's end up being full panel or tub sectioned and clips replaced. Sometimes the work is top notch but usually not and unless you know these cars well can be a nightmare.
Not questioning your shop doing the PPI but do they know these air cooled cars specifically the 964 well enough? Many we work on them all shops don't have a clue although that is not always the case.
Just saying take the emotion out of it until you are sure it is what it is represented as. A bad 911 is no better than a bad VW Beetle and will cost you considerably more to fix.
03-05-2018, 04:04 PM
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Yes they did meter the paint and it didn't have any insane readings or no readings and confirmed its a late production with the seals, They are a known p-car shop in socal and rebuild engines, the ppi was very extensive, i've been getting my 997 serviced there and by chance the owner of this car had it there for some mods he was doing and i asked if i he'd be interested in selling, he actually doesn't seem too interested in selling it, but i still went ahead and did a ppi since the car was there and the shop gave me a discount because i know them.
03-06-2018, 02:15 AM
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03-06-2018, 02:30 PM
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the car drives strong, not worried about compression. i don't think i'll be able to make a deal with the seller on this one anyways, so the search just goes on.
03-07-2018, 06:50 PM
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