997Pilot

Hi, new to the forum, i've browsed here a few times usually in the 997 area. I've had my 997 carrera S for years and now looking to jump into the air cooled. I have been searching for a 964 for a few weeks now i've searched a few threads and found some great information but i have my own questions.

I've looked at a couple of cars so far and deciding which i'll get a ppi on. one of the cars is almost perfect but has one hiccup so would like some opinions here.

Sorry for the long post, its a bit complicated lol.

The car in questions is a 1990 C2 coupe, has plenty of recent receipts for major work done to the engine about 3 years ago gear box & the suspension..the engine top end is rebuilt and the owner says it has a reseal that included a head gasket retrofit from what i understand and something else that put it to RS specs (not sure exactly), the transmission was rebuilt by the porsche dealer all oil pipes, gaskets and the suspension was all redone too.

The exterior looks good but has a little rust bubble around window which looks to not go deep, clear of accidents, the interior is a bit tattered specially the drivers seat.

now to the surprise, the owner owned this car about 11 years he bought it with 40k miles on it as his 2nd car, after a couple of years of ownership the odometer stopped working, then he moved to canada and it was changed to KM / or when they converted it at registration i guess it was diff so the carfax says "odometer potential roll back " this is all verifiable as i can see the registration and all that..the guy never fixed the odometer, so the car since 2008 hasn't had a working odometer, but its had all this recent work done and runs great, he just never thought he would sell it (this is an older trust worthy guy, i feel he is being honest about all he is saying) He says he drives about 5,000 to 8,000 miles a year max since it sits in his garage stored for winters &and the car does look to be around 100,000 mile car at most

So, with all the major work that has been done to the car, does that counteract the non working odometer? What do you guys think this car would be worth? I'm seeing cars like his with high miles go in the 50's and thats without the major work he has done, not sure where to go from here, do i walk away because of odo or does it really matter when i have all this work? he wants $52,000

sorry again for the long first post and thanks in advance.

newsboy

You might want to look at the post just before this for a comparison. For me, a 52K car should be just about perfect. Make sure you get a PPI from an experienced Porsche Independent.
A small amount of rust could be just that, or allot more? Paint/bodywork can be expensive.

Goughary

Rust around the window means there is rust elsewhere. Doesn't mean it's going to rust through in the next year. But it does mean for sure that as you do work on the car you will find more and you will spend to deal with it. If it's just a driver, no big deal - but there are costs to remediate if you are of mind to go there.

As far as mileage - a bit irrelevant for a driver. Get a leakdown done, check the health of the motor. Have a ppi done by someone that knows 964- not just old 911. These aren't the same.

Jjm4life

he hasn't fixed the odometer in a decade? seems odd. odometer aside, its a 50k+ car.

Marine Blue

997Pilot

That is good to know. So i guess his asking price isn't too bad.

​​​​​​Don't have any pics of it to post now, i think i should have said "little bit worn" not tattered.

Thank you for your advice all.

tbennett017

Where is the rust bubble? Which window? There is a common rust bubble that seems to happen to 964s just under the windshield, about 6 inches in from the side edge along the bottom seal. Many cars have it. It can be dealt with a windshield-out repair... weld/repaint.

NeinEleven

There is something special about the air-cooleds isn't there? They just have an addicting character. I think this one should be in the low 40s due to the mileage issue and rough interior, unless there is something about it that you really like.

Vegas993

Sounds like a car I would want to inspect in person.

997Pilot

the bubble is at the rear window edge rite under the seal, similar to the ones you see at front window, but this one is at rear.

onceover

I disagree. Sub 50k sounds more like it.

I don't understand why someone wouldn't repair an odometer even if they never planned on selling it. It's quite important to know distance between oil changes, valve adjustments, etc.

Bloose993TT

The rust is what would scare me the most not the odometer. Check video below.

Ralph3.

Odometers aren't that expensive to fix, makes one wonder what else didn't get done.

Jjm4life

I frankly don't understand either. That being said, has anyone seen a c2 coupe around 100k miles in what sounds like d rivers condition for less than 50?

997Pilot

The guy just seemed like he intended on keeping the car forever and never bothered with fixing it since speedo worked and he kept a log of miles and said he figured the plastic gear would just break again . He did all the huge major services documented just the silly little odometer gear he never got fixed..it is stupid if you ask me.

​​​​​​Surely this looks scary but i try not to think of worst case scenarios like this, the spot doesn't look like it would be that bad.