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Old 01-21-2018, 11:22 AM
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Default Crank case beyond repair or not?

Just getting ready to start my rebuild and found one of the crank case halves cracked in the bottom.

Does anyone here have experience in repairing crank cases? Can it be welded up and in that case how?

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OUCH. Sorry...
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It's toast. You can fix it, but you won't be happy / sleep at night.
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If that was a rare case (such as original RSR/GT-2) indigenous to that car, I would repair it since new ones are NLA, however with a street car, I would get another used one.
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Thanks for the replies! It doesn’t seem easy to get ahold of even a used one. I’ll do some digging and see what I can find.
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Originally Posted by Jonte
Just getting ready to start my rebuild and found one of the crank case halves cracked in the bottom.

Does anyone here have experience in repairing crank cases? Can it be welded up and in that case how?

Strange. Why / how has it cracked?
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Originally Posted by ALSPEAKE

Strange. Why / how has it cracked?
i was wondering the same. Maybe Steve could shed some light ?

OP- check http://www.ladismantler.com/ they may have a long/short block you can buy.
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That's not normal wear and tear. To me it looks like either the engine was dropped or some weird jacking operation was undertaken on the case wherein the car was lifted by the case in the wrong manner.
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By now it is a game of numbers. It can be welded and last forever.

It is up to the OP to determine which is the most affordable solution, weld or replace.
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The engine was bought as a spare for my project and comes from a wrecked car. I’m guessing it happened during the incident...

it it was not visible (to me) before I cracked the case open.
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Originally Posted by Rennlistuser8
By now it is a game of numbers. It can be welded and last forever.

It is up to the OP to determine which is the most affordable solution, weld or replace.
Interesting crack patterns. I wonder it was jacked up by the case and the car slipped off the jack? Edit: more likely due to the accident mentioned above.

I agree, given the paucity of second hand cases available (Singer impact) the only option may be to weld it up. Assuming it's still dimensionally correct, I wonder what the downside is given the number of fasteners holding the case in place?

Any other pics OP?

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To further on the idea, I personally know of (2) 356 cases that were cracked around the sump plate, JB welded literally on the side of the road, and finished their rally raid without any issues. One has been driven several thousand Kms as repaired before being taken apart for a rebuild.
Tough engines, low stress area. I am not sure I would risk it around a crankshaft webbing, but down there, with correct welding and machining of the mating surfaces, I would not think twice about it, after the numbers are determined in favor of repair.
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Stuff like this is exactly why I am making reproduction 3.6 cases, although they won't be ready in time to fix this one soon.
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Jacking the car up at that lift point did NOT crack the case.

Some kind of hard impact caused the damage and I've seen quite a bit of that over the last 42+ years..
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It is a bit strange that only half the case has the damage.


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